X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,1eec33c4f76bc1f3 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-10 18:45:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsgate.cistron.nl!amsnews01.chello.com!nlnews00.chello.com.POSTED!tanya. From: ppunk@damthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: (Gothic ASCII) - PVC Bodysuit! Organization: Total Disorganisation Message-ID: References: <3BE92FD4.54B79C5C@xs4all.nl> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.0.99 X-Original-Trace: 10 Nov 2001 20:52:30 +0100, 192.168.0.99 Lines: 28 X-Authenticated-User: donderfliegen Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:46:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.93.74.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@chello.nl X-Trace: nlnews00.chello.com 1005421608 213.93.74.225 (Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:46:48 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:46:48 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:10002 On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:18:42 -0600, Taliszanna provoked the following text: >> Gothic has many "kinky" elements. Especially fetish clothig like latex and >> leather are very popular because many of it is black and because the texture >> simply feels good. >> Just take a look in ABPEG (ignore the spam, i do) and see for yourself. > > Well, it goes beyond that, IMO. Goth is a subdivision of >punk. A lot of punk is about rebellion -- and rebelling against society's >prudishness when it came to sex and the body was something it definitely >did in the late 70's and early 80's. When goth started, it was a bit of >an artistic twist on punk music and fashion. The idea was to take those >parts of ourselves that society would like us to hide away and to pull >them out into the open. The link to sexual fantasy has never faded from >the scene. You say it so much better than i can. But then again, i am still kind of a newbie in the Goth scene. But i feel at home and that's most important. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Castrate my email adress to reply. "Life to you is a bold and dashing responsibility" -- a Mary Chung's fortune cookie