X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,eb87e25afefa9969 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-26 10:52:40 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed.news.nacamar.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!not-for-mail From: Markus Gebhard Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: jmove JavE Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:53:48 +0100 Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Lines: 60 Message-ID: <3C028FBC.3C18963B@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <3bfac461.17885109@news.concentric.net> <3BFADA65.66A37D3F@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <3baa0398.0111202237.7660675e@posting.google.com> <3bfb538a.54540074@news.concentric.net> <3BFB7C5D.28B7BCA2@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <3bfb9fc1$0$89826$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> <3BFC0EA3.2A7D1039@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <3bffafce$0$248$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> <3C0007A2.C139E33B@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <3c0013b4$0$74724$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> <3C001C4E.CDBF128C@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <3c0033bc$0$74803$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> <4adf244603Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <3c016a1d$0$25378$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> <3C017236.C2C8ED0C@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4adf8ab324Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: wn4-jarjar.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de 1006800759 4832 172.20.12.141 X-Complaints-To: usenet@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:11730 Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > > I've downloaded the Javascript player (www.jave.de/demo/progress3.html) > and started to play with the code so that I can follow what it is doing > more easily... In that example, the frame definitons are stored in an > array within the script within the page. To play a different movie, I > assume I'll need to replace the array's contents with some other values, > and perhaps modify the size & shape of the form's textarea. That's right. I have written an exporter tool for the JMOV editor in JavE that creates the complete html file with player and movie data (frames+timing info). (other options are/will be animated gif export, scrollbar animation, etc.) I think it is not a good idea to provide a JavaScript player and to have to add the data by hand. If there are improvements for the player I will integrate them into JavE and creating animations will be simple - w/o having knowledge about JavaScript. On the other side: if there are any common formats for ascii animations I can write import utilities for them. At the moment I am improving the movie editor capabilities in JavE. It all will be much better soon. > > I think it is a good idea to mention the locations for the demo movies > > we have been talking of - the 'making of' a nerd boy episode. The > > movie is available with the Java Applet player: > > www.jave.de/player/demo/demo7.html > > I took this to mean that if I visited this URL I'd be able to find the > complete definition of a nerd-boy movie, which (?) I'd then be able to > edit into a copy of the progress3.html web page and display. But when I > go to the demo7.html page (and other demo pages) all I get is a simple > page telling me that I can't use Java. Am I doing something wrong? On those demo pages there are Java applets (the 'JMOV Player' or 'JavE player applet') showing one animation each. Looking at the source code of the html you will find the location of the *.jmov files. They contain the animation data. The animation file you are looking for is: http://www.jave.de/player/demo/hovercraft.zip JMOV animations can be stored in compressed zip files - the player will detect automatically whether they are compressed or not (regardless of the file name ending). The jmov file format specification can be found here: http://www.jave.de/player/jmov_specification.html As the player software is open source there is no need to worry about the compression algorithms. Joaquim already has ported them to the JavaScript player (see the JavaScript demo) and we have added a new type of compression that only is available for the JavaScript player. The intention was to reduce the file size w/o having the ability to use zip-compression. There is still room for lots of improvements. If you have any questions about the player or the file format: just ask. Markus -- \-/ http://www.jave.de O_< Get JavE now! \-/ J|a|v|E /| J|a|v|E /-\ Ascii-Art for eyeryone / \ - for free! /-\