X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,ee101c88f899abd7 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-08 03:39:30 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!93-134.f.dial.o-tel-o.NET!not-for-mail From: utis Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: La Globalisation, Global Economy, La =?iso-8859-1?q?Globalizaci=F3n,?= Global sparsamhet, Weltwitenwirtschaft?......................... Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:52:20 +0100 Lines: 150 Message-ID: References: <3bb3edd7.1131782@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <9sa0bh$88j$1@naxos.belnet.be> <3be8e1b6.1001757@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <3BE90F88.B3FFF151@xs4all.nl> <3BE9D912.44F2F83A@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-134.f.dial.o-tel-o.net (212.144.93.134) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1005219567 36788061 212.144.93.134 (16 [87814]) X-Orig-Path: hermes!nobody X-operating-system: Linux from Scratch User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lHxC3ndbQJCcMPJlGIUKOOC6MG4= Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:9843 [...] > This is what you get when > you don't pay attention > in English classes. > I was drawing... | > \ \ > `, > ___ # /_,/\ > |/ ? /" ( > | , )\ .Y___ / > /__/\ \____ \(__ > ,- / \_/ \ / (\ > |/| / < _____ _> \ |. ||\ > -|.|--/___/ ,___/___\------'-----' > '-' |\/ b'ger > joris My apologies if I did get you wrong ... | / ))),, / /// ___ 9 9 / ___ / ( \ < )__ / ) \ |____/ / \_- |/ \ \____| | |__/ | I guess I understood that what I, personally, thought would be the most reasonable reply. I still hope this thread will not grow into a flame war about Bin Laden ... There's obviously a difference between "globalization causes problems" and "America, thou shalt suffer ...". I obviously have to respect the former, even if I think it is a rather shortsighted opinion. If I have to respect the other one ... well, I do not think so, but this is something I do not want to discuss in an ascii newsgroup. My point is: there is indeed a difference between agreeing to a opinion and respecting it. But there is a difference between a wrong opinion and an opinion that thousands of people shall die. Indeed I have to respect most opinions (for certain values of "respect" ...) as possible, if wrong, opinions. But I do not have to respect every opinion. If -- for example -- someone decides to post Neo-Nazi paroles to this NG, I would only post a few insults in reply and add an entry to my kill file. No respect for that! But this was not the case. Someone posted an ascii graphic to this NG against globalization. I may think this is shortsighted or plain wrong, but I may not insult the person. To a simply wrong (or shortsighted) opinion I may reply: ))),, Excuse me. May I tell you ' ` /// that you are plain wrong . . / with this opinion? It's < ) perfectly false, indeed. \_- | _/ |__/ \_ My reasons for this statement are as follows ... But not: Fuck ye, You have no right to live. stupid moron. / \_ ///// _/ We simply should shoot Eat shit, / /// folks like you down. bastard. = = / ___/ \__ < ) \_==| \ |__/ \_ You are worse than Hitler. Please note that the following is also *not* a way to respect a different opinion: Everyone has his/her own So, you think opinions. humans are fishes? | I do not think so, but \_ ))),, __/ maybe we are both right, eh? That's / /// interesting. __ x x / __ Personally I believe that < ) the moon is green cheese. Such a nice \_> | opinion. __/ |__/ \_ Do you like my opinion, too? It's nice, eh? To respect a different opinion is to take it seriously as a statement about "how things are" or "how things should be". That is: to respect it is to tell if you think it's wrong and to give *reasons, why* you think it's wrong. Therefore I will not respect a Nazi opinion, because I will *never* join an argument whether it's o.K. to kill millions of people. To give reasons _for_ an opinion means to admit that you *could* be wrong. And to give reasons *against* an opinion means to admit that the other one *could* be right. I will never admit anything like that when it comes to fascism. Beyond a certain point dialogue is impossible. But I can not disrespect every opinion that I think is wrong. If I tried, it would be a bit too much, because there is precisely one person in the world who always has the right opinions: ( ) ) ( ( )) Me. ) )( )) ))),, / ( / /// __/ _ _ / _U___ < ) () / / \_- |. // \_| |,-"|// __ ,-" // / \ ,-" // _ . --. ,--\," "--- // /\_/ \| "" -" "-. // \ \ | //| ,_\________________________//|| '--------------------------, || // \\|| // \\| [But your mileage may vary.] -- utis