X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,3781c24c7875bbc3 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-15 11:49:36 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!amsnews01.chello.com!nlnews00.chello.com.POSTED!tanya. From: ppunk@damthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Video conversation with Annie Ascii (GG!E4) Organization: Total Disorganisation Message-ID: References: <39otutgr1n7lfbehjdj3ce3ss98cte4gsa@4ax.com> <3befcbf1_2@batman.vip-za.com> <3bf0be92_3@batman.vip-za.com> <6te2vto0d2dugimi18nc3ssrtoa2acedqr@4ax.com> <4mq2vtgucigd2fo3o1rgt51m3qe74p5obd@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.0.99 X-Original-Trace: 15 Nov 2001 20:48:50 +0100, 192.168.0.99 Lines: 58 X-Authenticated-User: donderfliegen Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:42:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.93.74.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@chello.nl X-Trace: nlnews00.chello.com 1005853364 213.93.74.225 (Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:42:44 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:42:44 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:10470 On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:40:47 -0600, Taliszanna provoked the following text: >> >I disagree... I guess I will have to post some research here to convince the >> >current generation what correct English usage is... >> >> Yeah, someone should research that! > > But how? You could quote something from a book, but these days I >could write a book and say pretty much anything in it whether it was true >or not. I could write a book and include the type of hip lingo that is >now typically used in movies, magazines, on television, and on the radio >-- and I could present it as "current" because the media has such an >effect on society. You could select specific texts that an English prof. >once used at a college local to you and declare *that* proper English, but >unless it is currently being taught as the socially acceptable term, it >is not current. That is what I was taught in highschool a year and a half >ago by my English teacher, (who was, incidentally, at the time a student >at our local university, enrolled in Women's Studies where it was >impressed upon her the importance of following P.C. requirements in this >modern age). > > But that is just my understanding of how it is. (:> Hm! Guess >that that is my contributed research! [**wink-wink**] What is acceptable >may be different where you are. That is entirely possible. Disclamer: I don't mean anyone to feel addressed by the following unless applicable. I do not care too much for the discussion about what's proper English and what is not. Personally i think it would be wise to consider that many people who frequent these NG's do not have English as their native tongue, some (or many?) never even got it taught in school so to require proper English from people would be unrealisic to say the least. Most people that post in the NGs try their best and so do i. Forget the type-o's, everybody makes mistakes and it's very easy to make a mistake on a keyboerd where all the letters are so close together. About English as a language: i like the old English a lot. I find it hard to understand at times because of all the words and terms that no-one uses anymore but still i love to read something like "Thou Sir, art a naif" (sp?) I love the language as it is now too, i always did. I started speaking English when i was about four years old. During the holidays i used to sing "Shing el bels. Shing el bels. Shing el oll uhway", i could count ("wahn, too, shree") and i could say my name in English ("Mai name is Peetre") and of course i could say "yes" and "no". Just a little contribution to the discussion about proper English. :-) -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Castrate my email adress to reply. A baby is an alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no responsibility at the other.