X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,7e0aa10d9a4e82b4 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-15 05:37:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!transit.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail From: joris bellenger Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [tutorial] grayscale girl Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:36:26 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL Internet BV Lines: 92 Message-ID: <3BF3C4DA.C41CF4B8@xs4all.nl> References: <3BF0EAAD.6C7AF05F@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: a194-109-236-5.adsl.xs4all.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news1.xs4all.nl 1005831419 6918 194.109.236.5 (15 Nov 2001 13:36:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Nov 2001 13:36:59 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:10433 Andreas Freise wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, joris bellenger wrote: > [...] > > Tadaaaa... > > > > .&dkl`,ivne._ > > sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND. > > aHBNLbni+.irumLGNMms > > NRIr`'+dLKNMFb`'iNQr > > `ANWM7 `+lM0. `'^Kl > > iNWL*_;=e. Y._,_ ON > > aRNm _.l, j^ _` Bq, > > eNL:,l=N0`. ls`N0> ibK > > XHZu! _(c kPBN > > 'CD . ` tK7KX > > 'f _&zrc_. .Y > > , v, `ta.=" ,V > > 7q. 6% ^l = .r > > f'noib. + `d+ .._a7 t > > k+RD6 L.dr h' `*+iPb .f adI` > > dj+Ggr 4NJb .,dT `'KJc _ir+4b . > > `cl^ ._ tk. .,&;:rf"t&; 'yIKbr;. dp` luhrZti > > `~. ^_T `ysf' " n, 7 *lkr,. i7k._m.JKiV" > > J .H dY `"- ._`` "VK,4= . Kdj` > > K K B -s&. eJ+ .ys7^` > > T lLj (C' .4 > > P 'y ., . +j 7 > > ,y b, l .` ,t Y` Y > [...] > > I think that slowly I begin to see what you wnat to do. The outline > shading as well as for the legs works pretty good. What I can _not_ > see are the hands. Especially the left looks too dark (light > should be coming from left). Maybe I am missing something? Or is > it just the "hands are hard" problem once again? > > :) > Andreas Aw! You hit the spot. I keep seeing the hands because I know the original picture, but as you guys probably don't... The problem here isn't that hands are hard to draw, it's that the thechnique used doesn't allow small details like fingers. I could draw them with an other set of characters /.,\<>:;`-_|(~)7 for instance but they wouldn't fit in the overall look of the drawing anymore. I have to think about this. I wanted to do a -true greyscale- ascii that wasn't a huge picture (huge pictures allow you more details) and yet that isn't a complete mess. Maybe it's not possible, I don't know. Hey! but I'm not giving up. :) The following is a combination of line art and greyscale. Using this technique allows you to draw smaller pictures. The result is crisp and have some "weight". I like it a lot. /\ /\ (_ \ ( \ (_ `\iRBNMMbn. \_ \VAPRBNMMb \o_)lI<= (=\ / ` ) , _\ ) ) / (_(/ /_ __( \ __ _| _| |_ ,edMMNBRB)\ \_ /(PRBNMMbn. dMMNBRPAV/o(_____)o\VAPRBNMMb fMMWBRYIli\ o o o /rlIPRBWMMj MMBRRSZIlti+._.-._.+ilIZSRRBMMM /_o__o_/KZYI0lLRBNWMMMN\_o___o_\ /_____/flZJlDYTPRKBBNWMM \ ___( \ NNBR0PRRBNMMMMMMMlIPZSKRNWMMMV \__._\ \ NMBRR00PRBNNMMMMM_o___o___o__/ )_ __)o) NMMBRR00PRRBNNMMM___o___o___/ /___/ / NMMBBRR00PRRBNNMM_/\_/\_/\_( __/___x)/ NMMBBRR00PRRBNNMM \/ \/ \/ __ ) /(` __NMMBBRR00PRRBNNMM_________|_ / _') /__ ________ ___)(< (====. \_____________________________)_\ __\---' VMBBR00RBNMNV |__|\/ lMBRR00RNMV - VMB00BMNV joris bellenger VMB0BMV svzanten@xs4all.nl b'ger - VMV IN ASCII ART WE TRUST V - joris