X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,65f6e9a9181678d0 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-15 14:55:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!telocity-west!TELOCITY!HSNX.atgi.net!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail From: Bateau Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Conversions : Art or not ? Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 06:51:28 +0800 Message-ID: References: <9sjb2j.b0.1@Lucida.Console.Fans.International.Organization> <3BF04C4C.D72372E0@xs4all.nl> <3bf242a9$0$767$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: i205-241.nv.iinet.net.au X-Trace: news.iinet.net.au 1005864716 26743 203.59.205.241 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:10502 bonjour Taliszanna, je suis un robot! >On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, CeeJay wrote: > >> I think that it can only be considered art if it requires at least some >> measure of skill (or luck). >> Something anyone can do, is not really art. > > Then you are not going to like my opinion of ascii-art: I *do* >think that anyone can do it. One just has to learn which pieces look >better instead of others. There isn't a lot of skill in that. And there is none of that skill in making conversions. >> I think all straight conversions aren't really art because you just input an >> image (someone elses art) > > At present, yes, they are graphics that are often made by >others -- but not always. I would use more of own original art had I a >scanner of any type. :/ For now, the images of mine that I have >converted were made on the computer. So the only skill that you use when you convert the pictures is the skill in making the original images. Maybe you should be in a different art group. >> So I dont consider the conversions made by TAL art, because they require no >> skill to make. >> I appreciate however that she does not tag theese images and tell people they >> are conversion unlike so many I have seen trying to pass themselves off as >> "l33t" artists with rad ascii skillz, by showing of their "art". > > [**nods**] It would be dishonesty and that's not my style. > >> The ones she tag TAL and have been diddled by hand can be considered art >> though and I'd like to see more of thoose - And less of the plain >> conversions > > As I've said before: the ratio of "free-hand" ASCII pics to >converted pics would be higher if it did not take me so long. You will >see the free-hand ones whenever I finish them and no sooner. In the >meantime, I will continue to share what converted pics I think others >would like. If you don't like them, that is too bad... I guess it's time for us to start posting MP3s and JPGs then. -- | _ .\ ~~ _ ^~ | <')_,/ , ; .\ >(')__, . ` ' , | (_~=/ \._`.'. .\ (_~_/ _, _..-''-._,____,----,____ | ='- \=~_) ; .\ ~^~~^~ ` (_~_/ `'--'` `~~~~)_)=\_\-.( | -'= .\ ~^~ ~^~~^~ ICQ:11367619 EMAIL:bateau:-)jupiter-io.net WEB:http://tyrian2000.cjb.net