X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,f953f301357e6f7b X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-26 09:34:29 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: silent@a.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Dufus and Rufus Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:19:53 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3c024c89.10308644@news.cox-internet.com> References: <3c0034e3.9777573@news.cox-internet.com> <3c0060e6.38718081@news.concentric.net> <3c01c702.2160639@news.cox-internet.com> <3c01c426.56475582@news.concentric.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 132 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:11722 OK, I thank you for being a gentleman. However, copyright is probably one of the most misunderstood "concepts" ever. It protects no one in and of itself. All it does is give a person who has filed and received a written document of copyright that the work has been registered with the federal authority. It then becomes valuable only if there is litigation. There is even a specified form that the copyright notice must take for it to be valid. Otherwise, it is legally meaningless to just claim something to be copyrighted, such as "All rights reserved," etc. I have used copyright laws in art, music composition, magazine articles, research papers and books that I have written in years past. Unless they have been changed, I think there is just a lot of wishful thinking about what copyright laws are meant to do in this news group. The greatest protection anyone can have for their work is to simply avoid placing it in the public domain altogether. -Shadown On 26 Nov 2001 04:36:14 GMT, mikechat.remove@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) wrote: >On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 04:44:57 GMT, silent@a.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote: > >> >>Ok, since you evidently run an ASCII Gestapo service, you put whatever >>initials you believe belong on there, Mister. If you will take >>notice, I did not make a claim to the ASCIIs. They never had initials >>on them when I got them out of another news group a long time ago. > >I believe you. >I didn't accuse you. >I guess if I had said "Oh wow, there is that JRO cartoon, cool! Gosh >what happened his initials aren't on it, I bet you didnt know it was his >and you might want to put them on, like 'Original by JRO' or something." >you wouldn't have taken it as a personal attack. I wasn't meant as one. > >>Henceforth, I will put "artist unknown" on such. > >ok > >Gads! How picky >>do we get in this nosy news group anyway???? >>Sheeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz... >>And I am sure you have seen the castle before since I did it about >>15 years ago. > >nice work. > >Now, if you want to dispute that, you go right ahead >>and make an ass out of yourself. I really don't care who claims it >>otherwise because I just try to have fun and share the entertainment >>with others who have a good sense of humor, also. >>-Shadow > >Excerpt from the FAQ for this news group: >10. Can I post or use other people's ASCII art? > > Don't assume that if somebody posts something to a newsgroup, that gives you > the right to use it however you like; copyright laws still apply. For more > information, see the article `Copyright Myths FAQ: 10 big myths about > copyright explained' in news:news.announce.newusers. (It is also available at > http://www.clari.net/brad/copymyths.html.) > > ASCII art is often an exception to this rule, though: generally, ASCII artists > don't mind if you copy their pictures and repost them or put them on your own > Web site for your personal use. There are a few important conditions, however. > > * If the picture contains a few letters in one corner which don't seem to be > part of the picture, they're the artist's initials. DO NOT remove these > initials -- would you cut away the part of a Van Gogh painting containing > his name? Leaving the initials on is a small price to pay for being able to > use the picture for free. > > * If you're going to use a picture in your signature file, or in a place (such > as a log-in screen) which means you're going to be using it a lot, you > should really e-mail the artist (or post to the newsgroup, if you don't know > their address) and ask for permission, because otherwise people may get the > mistaken impression that you were the one who drew the picture. > > As for posting other people's ASCII art, after a discussion in > news:alt.ascii-art the following rules were agreed upon: > > 1. If an ASCII ART picture has initials on it, leave them on when posting it. > 2. If an ASCII ART picture doesn't have initials on it, mention that you > didn't draw it when posting it. > 3. If somebody posts a picture without initials and you have an original copy > with initials, feel free to repost the original version. The repost ought > not to be taken personally, as we all know that ASCII art often loses > proper credits. Responses to the repost are not necessary. > > [Donovan] > >_____- I didn't have a copy of the original handy, sorry. > > >> >> >>On 25 Nov 2001 03:10:47 GMT, mikechat.remove@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) >>wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:09:33 GMT, silent@s.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote: >>> >>>um, you really should put JRO's initials back on that comic. >>> >>>and I dont know who's castle that was you posted earlier >>>but I have seen that before as well. >>>-- >>> _________________________________________________ >>> /| _____________________________________________ | >>> //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | >>> // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | >>> //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | >>> \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | >>> \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | >>> \\| |_____________________________________________| | >>> \|_________________________________________________| >> > >-- > _________________________________________________ > /| _____________________________________________ | > //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | > // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | > //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | > \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | > \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | > \\| |_____________________________________________| | > \|_________________________________________________|