X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,f7d991da3cc3c27e X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-15 13:10:46 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!grolier!btnet-peer0!btnet!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: stumo@bigfoot.com (Stuart Moore) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Jave1.1 released Message-ID: <3b51f3db.6927172@news.ntlworld.com> References: <3B4D80FB.63F9A3ED@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <1gB37.35076$B56.6848104@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com> <3B4EEEBC.AF5833DC@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <3B519ABC.49126441@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 25 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:06:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.253.49.196 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news2-win.server.ntlworld.com 995227542 62.253.49.196 (Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:05:42 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:05:42 BST Organization: ntlworld News Service Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:6671 [Snipped discussion re: Jave becoming Open Source, as this is more of a general comment than a reply to anything direct] Open source is a very good thing, IMHO, but it does have problems as Markus says, also I'm not convinced it will speed up development much (e.g. Mozilla - not that I want to get into a full debate on what's good/bad about that, only that Mozilla has been an open source project for a long time and still isn't perfect, while other browsers e.g. Opera appear to have managed to do a lot more in a similar timescale). Also, I know when I code something and I'm proud of it, I want it to be acnoledged [never could spell] as my own work. Markus should be very proud of everything he's done with Jave, and to be frank if he wants to keep it as his project he has every right to, whatever his reasons. I could understand people being upset at the decision if Jave was going nowhere and had a lot of potential but the program wasn't being improved - but he seems to be rolling out new versions at a rate of knots, each with an impressive set of new features - I'd be very surprised if an open source project could do that well. -- o |\ _[] L_ === Stuart Moore []\, stm