X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,b8b1a663c4829ea5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-29 10:24:31 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!torn!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!tribune.usask.ca!chem4823.usask.ca!taliszanna From: Taliszanna Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Mr.Genius Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:24:47 -0600 Organization: University of Saskatchewan Lines: 81 Message-ID: References: <3c289dd4$0$55550$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: chem4823.usask.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: tribune.usask.ca 1009650270 12790 128.233.48.23 (29 Dec 2001 18:24:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@tribune.usask.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Dec 2001 18:24:30 GMT In-Reply-To: <3c289dd4$0$55550$edfadb0f@dspool01.news.tele.dk> Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:12991 On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, CeeJay wrote: > How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in todays > world ? > .. what are they called btw ? For how they are walking: the word "dork" comes to mind. As for the pants: a few types fit this category: ravers, skateboarders, homeboyz, gangstas, new grunge kids, slummers, and jazzies, (are usually seen also wearing a cap like Angus Young from AC/DC wears, ironically). They don't all walk stupidly-- just the ones who are trying too hard to impress someone. > > Please explain the underlying philosophy to me, Annie. > > Is'nt it just about being different and a little mystical ? No. Trying to be a "little different" is what everyone does. We just are without trying. Being a little mystical is for the gypsies and students of magic/k some of them are goths. Being pretentious and mysterious is a quality found in the gothic clubs, but it is not the goal-- just a side-effect. Consider that any night club has a tonne of pretentious- ness. It's a club thing before it's a goth thing. I am not preten- tious. In fact, I'm up-front about basically everything and don't need to pretend anything-- I'm glad to show just who I am. When I'm dancing, I'm putting on a performance for myself, not for anyone else. I forget that others are even there, in fact, when the music is playing and I'm bathed in blue. > You could call it a hobby .. putting time and money into something only a select > group understand and care about .. kind of like drawing ascii-art. Um, no. Man, you missed the mark more on understanding goth than I'd thought... It's not a hobby, it's a style, a sub-culture, a mindset that can intertwine with spirituality-- not religion, but spirit. A lot of us are artists of some kind or very much appreciate the arts-- theatre and the visual arts typically battle for which category we love the most. We paint ourselves to look like the art that we so love, becoming art ourselves. The entire club is a work of art, in fact-- the atmosphere, the sexy vibe, the very liberal attitude, the tension, the release of tension in wild dance that can't be done anywhere else, the wonderful decor, knowing that we are among others who are something like ourselves-- people from whom we do not have to hide certain things because these things are not just accepted but encouraged... but those same people we may have to guard other things in ourselves from if they turn, (which can happen in any social circle... just sometimes a little more visciously in this one because we are people who are unafraid to face our darkness and to get to know it). We revel in seeing our friends happy, expressing themselves on the floor, making the best of themselves in that moment. We revel in sharing something good, something exciting-- something that the rest of the world is too silly to allow themselves a piece of with the abandon that we do. We know that we all walk outside of what is labeled by common society as "normal" and so with each other there is a comfort-- to know that we are not alone. And if something has you feeling bad, it's alright. Feel it, don't stifle it here as the rest of the world would have you do. We all feel bad sometimes. Get on the floor. Live in the feeling and then maybe you'll be rid of it later if you don't suppress. This is how we are healthy. The rest of the world doesn't bother trying to ask and understand. Common society, it seems to us, would like to live with its head in the sand and a stick up its ass. Society seems to honour the Nazi value of non-tolerance for anything that is out-of-the-ordinary. Society is shallow and small-minded in this way. > > Bizarreness is the essence of the exotic > > The automatic signaturelines from TAFKAPP are often .. strangly apropriate. > Almost like if an AI was creating them. Automatic signaturelines? I'm unsure what you are referring to. I'm not really much of a fan, (his name was changed back to Prince, btw). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ,qppppp. qMMM____;M ~ Taliszanna WhiteCrow ~ (a.k.a Jessie Brown OR qMMM.^^(Mp Her Mighty Erisian Po*piness, Pope Dances-with-Earwax) .qMMM__=/Mp _/ http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/ MMMMM_',MMp