X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,5c20982a40141948 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-04-21 13:30:04 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!stl-feed.news.verio.net!newsreader.wustl.edu!news.fas.harvard.edu!not-for-mail From: uncle monty Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: snow foolin diddle Date: 21 Apr 2001 20:22:23 GMT Organization: work and at play Lines: 47 Message-ID: <9bsq5v$mop$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> References: <9bonc5$34c$1@news.netmar.com> <20010420105203.13321.00000387@ng-ci1.aol.com> <3AE0757B.CB58337@homail.com> <9bpt8f$2he$1@news.inet.tele.dk> <3AE09438.D7DBBEDD@homail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: is01.fas.harvard.edu Xref: newsfeed.google.com alt.ascii-art:5329 Kyle Baker wrote: > I think the pictures are immoral and therefore it would be immoral to > view them. Kyle - "morality" is an awfully big word to bring into it. Take a deep breath and ask yourself whether a few ascii characters thrown together to suggest a naked body or sexual act truly transgresses any natural law of moral behaviour. art by definition cannot be immoral. The attitude that it could be immoral even just to _view_ certain art is an extremly dangerous one. Sure, now it's just a complaint about sexii's snow foolin' diddle -- but later it'll be withdrawing funding from museums because they exhibit something someone objects to, or throwing a composer in jail because he or she writes modernist, inaccessible music, also called immoral under certain regimes. anyway, I happen to know that the women in sexii's pictures were all over 21, were consenting and well compensated, and under supervision at all times during the ascii rendering :-) No but really, no one is being hurt by such pictures. I appreciate Joan's distaste because she made the pics for her children, and out of respect for one of the true great ascii artists, the diddler should remove Joan's art from his site now she's disapproved. The coloured jpgs there are pretty dumb anyway. sexii should stick to the smaller pics he's posted here, the one with a whip was quite good. > If you are tempted to do this with ascii art stop drawing it. sorry, this sounds so much like the advice my old edition of "Scouting for Boys" had about when you lie in bed at night and have impure thoughts. Howver much some people are dismayed by the thought of 15-yr old boys having a bit of a wank of an evening, doctors agree it's a healthy and harmless pasttime. Your advice to "resist the temptation" of drawing such ascii - or diddling others' ascii - is similarly quaint. Some people like to draw bunnies, some people like to add cocks to other people's bunnies. Killfile them and move on. Likewise for Tran Q - though I consider that he provides a valuable reposting service, and if you strip the rude messages, the art he posts is often good (though never his own of course). I did have to laugh at the "see no evil, hear no evil" etc monkeys recently. in short, don't worry if you catch a glimpse of the {i} or other immoral ascii sequences--you won't be condemned to the eternal flames. --monty, who was bored this afternoon