X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,d50ba987d0102796 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: fe8ed,b66df5248a81f401 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe8ed,public From: "Kurt J. Schatzl" Subject: Re: Frogstein and Birdstein - Genesis (2)- Date: 1997/07/01 Message-ID: <33B8D0B5.698E@tgetstuffed.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 253858280 References: <33B4A790.794BDF32@nospam.sm.luth.se> <19970629144701.KAA05930@ladder02.news.aol.com> <33B68EB0.446B9B3D@nospam.sm.luth.se> <33B88CD6.7362@Snortel.com> Organization: New England Herpetological Society, Boston MA. Reply-To: schatzl@getstuffed.com Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,rec.pets.herp Ron A. Zajac wrote: > > Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine wrote: > > > > In article <33B68EB0.446B9B3D@nospam.sm.luth.se>, > > Veronica Karlsson writes: > > >PeteCasso wrote: > > >> > > >> >I'm quite sure that the snake is not pregnant, snakes lay eggs... > > >> > > >> Ha ha ha, indeed! Funny! > > > > > >But they do! (and consequently they can't be pregnant) > > > > Amniotic eggs in fact: leathery ones, with no hard shell. Some > > wiseacre will correct me, but I never heard of any snake give live birth > > (i.e. have the embryo develop to full size with the egg-sack still > > inside the mother's body). > > There _IS_ a snake that gives "live" birth (tho it's just a timing > issue; the offspring don't have belly buttons....). I seem to recall > it's the common "garter" snake. > > How'd'ya like _them_ apples, "Baby Snakes"? > > Disclaimer; I'm a herpetological ignoramus; anyone in rec.pets.herp want > to set the record straight? It's in the interest of science and ascii > art! > Snakes of the Nerodia complex (N.A. water snakes) bear living young that develope within their own embryonic sac while inside the female. There has been some evidence of primitive placental structures in this complex as well. Boa constrictors also bear living young that develope in embryonic sacs within the female and are born alive as miniatures of the adults. -- Kurt Schatzl President-Elect, NEHS. New England Herpetological Society homepage http://www.unc.edu/~dtkirkpa/stuff/NEHS/NEHSndx.html