X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109d8a,d285c0422982fd10,start X-Google-Attributes: gid109d8a,public X-Google-Thread: 10cc56,d285c0422982fd10,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10cc56,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d285c0422982fd10,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,d285c0422982fd10,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: 1110fe,d285c0422982fd10,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1110fe,public From: Archimedes.Plutonium@dartmouth.edu (Archimedes Plutonium) Subject: Vietmath War: Einstein Dysprosium on Peano Axioms of Math Date: 1997/01/01 Message-ID: <5aeect$hij@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 207148784 distribution: world x-authenticated: Archimedes.Plutonium on DND host dartmouth.edu organization: PLutonium College newsgroups: sci.physics.electromag,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic,alt.ascii-art In article <5aedhv$po1@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Archimedes.Plutonium@dartmouth.edu (Archimedes Plutonium) writes: > In another thread Einstein Dysprosium in Vietmath will be another > article and I hope to seek out the help of Colin Douthwaite in possible > ascii art of this. --- quoting from THE MECHANICAL UNIVERSE --- There are two possibilities. One of them is this. The loop is held stationary, not moving, and I take the magnet and I move the magnet into the loop. That causes the current to flow. Now that case the charges in the loop were not themselves in motion, so it can't have been the magnetic field of the bar magnet that made them move but since they did move There therefore was an electric field and so we conclude that a changing magnetic field, moving the bar magnet, created an electric field. And that of course was Faraday's great discovery of Electromagnetic Induction in the 19th century. And that is one explanation of that experiment. Now there is another completely different, independent explanation and that goes this way. Suppose instead I hold the bar magnet stationary and I move the loop. Now of course exactly the same thing happens. But in this case we have no moving magnet, no changing magnetic field , but instead, the charges in the loop are moving because I am moving the whole loop. They have the velocity v and this velocity crossed into the magnetic field of the bar magnet gives us a force which causes the current to flow and that also describes perfectly well the experiment that we just saw. So those two different phenomenon that is to say this, loop stationary and magnet moving and this, magnet stationary and loop moving are actually two completely distinct independent phenomenon that have completely different explanations. When Albert Einstein saw that he said look guys, you just got to be kidding any yoyo can see that those two things are the same thing . So it was this simple little experiment that was really the starting point of the theory of relativity, not the Michelson Morley experiment. Not some exotic experiment to detect the motion of the Earth through the ether. But this simple little phenomenon that of course everybody knew about, but which disturbed nobody else , except , Albert Einstein. And what disturbed Einstein was not that we had difficulty explaining this phenomenon this equation explains them perfectly in every case. What disturbed Albert Einstein was the lack of inner perfection of the theory and what he did in response was to produce a theory the Special Theory of Relativity which had just that kind of inner perfection. --- end quoting from THE MECHANICAL UNIVERSE --- The inner perfection How many people can see that the Successor Axiom of the Peano Axiom System is the same identical Series as the Series of the definition of what a P-adic, (an Infinite Integer) is. So far, I am the only and the first human to see that these two are identical. What does this mean? It means that Naturals are the P-adics and that the old Finite Integers were a imprecise and foggy unclear concept. Physics has inner perfection, and math does also, but of course math has inner perfection for all of mathematics is but a minor subset of physics. Math is physics only where the experimentation is usually just pen and paper. And no math theorem (theorems are fancy words for physics experiment using just pen and paper). No math theorem is as important as any physics experiment. Let me say that another way. All physics experiments are more important than any math theorem (experiment) because all physics experiments usually draw more than pen and paper and imagination into the experiment itself, and in the case of the above physics experiment they draw from the world magnets and loops and electrical devices. Would Colin Douthwaite or someone please draw a ascii picture of the professor moving a bar magnet through loop and then loop through bar magnet. Sincere thanks