X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd588,a5f2a3e3faaa75bb X-Google-Attributes: gidfd588,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,a5f2a3e3faaa75bb X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public From: cfbd@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite) Subject: Re: FAQ: New to alt.ascii-art? Read me first! Date: 1997/12/08 Message-ID: <66g6ev$4kv$1@mnementh.southern.co.nz> X-Deja-AN: 296203930 References: <669728$afo$1@mnementh.southern.co.nz> <34886A92.689D@mpq.mpg.de> Followup-To: alt.ascii-art,alt.ascii-art.animation Organization: Southern InterNet Services Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.ascii-art.animation Andreas Freise (adf@mpq.mpg.de) wrote: >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >> 11 What happened to rec.arts.ascii? >> ==================================== >[snip] >> In the case of rec.arts.ascii, the moderator was Bob Allison (otherwise >> known as `Scarecrow'), and he retired from the job in November 1993. >> That's why there aren't any messages in the newsgroup any more. >> ********************* >> On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 bertino@netcom.com (Don Bertino) announced >> that he was returning for a second term as moderator of the >> rec.arts.ascii newsgroup which is now back on line. >> ********************* > >There we have it. Colin, I believe that you got the numbers wrong >here. Do you mind using the following instead? > > > In the case of rec.arts.ascii, the moderator was Bob Allison (otherwise > known as `Scarecrow'), and he retired from the job in June 1996. The > newsgroup was inactive from December 1996 until November 1997. Don Bertino > (bertino@netcom.com) is at the helm as moderator. Post away. > >(Or at least change the 'November 1993' to the correct date, please!!) >The above is the version Joan and I use on our sites. I have been very reluctant to modify the new FAQ in any way in the absence of, and without permission of its original author. So I simply added the comment about Don Bertino's (unexpected) resumption of the moderator duties for rec.arts.ascii which happened after the FAQ author had departed on vacation. ( You probably also noticed that I left the FAQ author's footnote about going on vacation till 1998 in the FAQ version that I posted.) You are correct about the 1993 date error in the original FAQ. My chronology of events is: | The unmoderated newsgroup, alt.ascii-art, was created by Joel Furr | in September 1993. | The moderated newsgroup, rec.arts.ascii, was created in June 1994 | with Bob Allison ( Scarecrow ) as Moderator. | In July 1996 Don Bertino took over as Moderator of rec.arts.ascii | with Allen Mullen as deputy moderator. | On 23 Dec 1996 the last posting from the moderator, Don Bertino, | appeared in rec.arts.ascii and since that date the newsgroup has | had no traffic. | On 25 Nov 1997 Don Bertino announced, in rec.arts.ascii, that he | was resuming duties as moderator of the rec.arts.ascii newsgroup | and so traffic in rec.arts.ascii resumed on that date. Here is Don Bertino's announcement which was posted only to the rec.arts.ascii newsgroup and may not have been seen by readers of alt.ascii-art: ==================================================================== Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii From: bertino@netcom.com (Don Bertino) Subject: ADMIN: rec.arts.ascii back online Message-ID: Sender: bertino@netcom15.netcom.com Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 06:29:28 GMT Approved: bertino@netcom.com Yes, rec,arts.ascii is alive and kicking. My apologies for letting in go to the shape it is in today. I will work hard to get back to the point Bob A. had it. So without much more ado..... Here are the backlog of articles. A few at a time. don -- bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== ========================================================================= Now that Krogg is posting the FAQ to the newsgroups regularly I may just omit posting the new FAQ and post the "ancient" FAQs once a month. It is always preferable if the FAQ Author/Maintainer posts the FAQ and its updates, but it does not really matter who does the regular postings. I posted the old FAQs because the original authors/maintainers no longer posted them. Please understand that any postings I make are not "official postings" because this newsgroup, alt.ascii-art, is unmoderated and no one holds office or controls what gets posted. Conversely, moderators of moderated newsgroups have total jurisdiction on what is posted. Curiously though...articles _crossposted_ to alt.ascii-art _AND_ to rec.arts.ascii first go to the Moderator of rec.arts.ascii and the article will only appear in the unmoderated alt.ascii-art newsgroup if the rec.arts.ascii moderator approves the article. Moderated newsgroups take preference on crossposted articles and a moderator has no obligation to inform posters that their article is not acceptable. If the article is rejected it will not appear in any of the crossposted newsgroups. If crossposts include more than one moderated newsgroup then the first moderator to receive it decides its fate...he does not have to pass it along. In my view the Usenet Moderation System is a complete lulu and I never intentionally post articles to a moderated newsgroup. Bye,