X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,dd69a5d577e948b7,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public From: dski@cameonet.cameo.com.tw Subject: Info: ISPs, AOL, Fonts, Etc. Date: 1996/06/11 Message-ID: <4pjvaq$99c@voyager.iii.org.tw>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 159626653 organization: Cameo Communications, Inc. keywords: Fonts, ISPs newsgroups: alt.ascii-art originator: dski@ summary: AOL is an ISP; fonts are for the birds Weible (weible@aol.com) wrote: > Please do not post ascii art on the newsgroups, unless you designed it with a fixed-space font. This is simply good sense. If you don't use a monospaced font, your artwork will be an incomprehensible mess on most people's screens. > AOL don't use a fixed-space font, but the rest of the internet does. The Internet does not use any font, and I strongly suspect AOL doesn't either. A capital letter A goes out on the wires as eight signals that represent the decimal number 65 and mean nothing but a capital letter A to the receiving system. If someone asks you how to spell "byte," do you reply, "10-point upright Times Roman b; 10-point upright Times Roman y; 10-point upright Times Roman t," and so forth? In the past few months I've seen e-mail messages containing a "Face" field in the header; presumably this specifies a typeface on some systems, but it is meaningless to most, and each capital A still goes out as decimal 65. Since different systems are equipped with different fonts, the only way to guarantee that a message will appear in a particular font at the receiving end is to send the message graphically. This would increase the transmission time many times over, nobody would be able to search for text in the message, and many terminals would be unable to display it. This is simply not done, except by a few clueless Web page designers. The Ladee Vamp (VampLadee@aol.com) wrote -- > I'm well aware of how ISPers feel about AOL members. Just a thought... Ladee, AOL is your ISP -- your Internet service provider. Everyone on the Internet has an ISP. Everyone. > This group is for ASCII art which stands for American Standard Code for Information Interchange. So bascally, artwork should be kept to that font. But what font is that? Courier? Is that what text programs use such as Windows Notepad? ASCII is the set of rules stating that a digital device, when instructed to produce text, must produce something -- anything -- universally recognizable as a capital A when fed the binary pattern 01000001, a capital B when fed 01000010, a capital C when fed 01000011, and so on and so forth. Except for the few that contain that "Face" nonsense, e-mail messages and Usenet posts are free of font information. Even standard Web pages leave fonts up to the viewer's browser: standard HTML lets the author specify only things like "strong," "bold," "italics," "title," "heading," "monospaced," etc. Many ISPs provide their customers with graphics-based programs that make everything coming in over the wire look like typeset material. ALL of the prettifying is done by the software running on your own computer. Brian Odom (bodom@cs.indiana.edu) writes: > there is *1* internet. can't you guys on aol just change your font? With all the variety, it's hard to say if there's really only one Internet. In addition, there are a lot of other protocols besides TCP/IP traveling on the same wires as the stuff we think of as the Internet. More importantly, note that some people CAN'T change their font -- I've heard that Pegasus Mail, a widely used mail program, uses only one font, a proportional font. I can't change mine, either, and I don't want to. Straight 80-column text display all the way -- none of this graphical nonsense, except for the few bitmaps I download because the text shows they're worth it. I'm here to learn and communicate, not to see pretty colors and fancy fonts. I don't need the flash, I don't want to go blind, and I WILL NOT BE ASSIMILATED. So there. Dan Strychalski dski@cameonet.cameo.com.tw