X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fb118,c675cd1e60f39a88 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb118,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,c675cd1e60f39a88 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: 110f55,c675cd1e60f39a88 X-Google-Attributes: gid110f55,public X-Google-Thread: f9437,c675cd1e60f39a88 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9437,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-05-23 08:06:02 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!get.hooked.net!decwrl!ames!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!msuinfo!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!giaeb!dljar1 From: dljar1@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (Dwayne Jarvis) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.binaries.pictures.ascii,alt.binaries.pictures.d,news.groups Subject: Re: VOTING: rec.arts.ascii (MODERATED) Date: 23 May 94 12:31:41 GMT Organization: Monash University Lines: 114 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #4 (NOV) Xref: bga.com alt.ascii-art:8245 alt.binaries.pictures.ascii:562 alt.binaries.pictures.d:2676 news.groups:14881 >ROW> What is the big appeal of a.a-a? >- Freedom for all comers. >- Lots of pictures. >- Lots of requests :-) >- Great enjoyment for many users ( regrettably not all ). >- The potential to become one of the top ten groups. Not what I meant. Every time someone says "replace a.a-a with r.a.a (m)" you jump in and say that a.a-a is not being replaced. If r.a.a (mod) does pass, then I would surely consider it a move. The fact that a.a-a would not be deleted means it could be put to other use. Maybe a good opportunity? >REQUESTS, REQUESTS, REQUESTS: Battle cry of the moderationists. And why not? If the voter doesn't enjoy reading requests, then why not take the opportunity to vote for a moderated group? I did ;). [see my other post somewhere for why I am against requests to an extent] >> It's actually a very standardized way to deal with such things as FAQs. >> Many groups do this because it's efficiant. >Many groups ? Name them. Geez, pop onto misc.answers (or that FAQ ftp site which I can't think of at the moment). I can only imagine that "most" (purely imaginative use of the word) groups try their best to cut down on repeat *anythings* via a FAQ. No? >Standardized ? Which standard is that then ? Standard: usual, regular (thesaurus alternatives) If still confused, consult previous responce. >To the requester each and every request is _new_ and quite normal. >Popular subjects are bound to be requested frequently but by >_ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE_ who simply have not seen all the other >Newcomers are arriving in the group continuously and at a great rate. Don't forget this is a *personal* vote. In other words, people vote for what -they- would like to happen, not for what someone else might like. I'm quite aware of why requests are popular, and why the same ones apear so often. I never implied otherwise. >I consider that nonsense - I've been reading this group since about >late September 1993 - as soon as I heard about it - and I simply do >not agree with you - so there ! :-) :-) Mistake in that paragraph: you acknowledge that we have different *opinions* and yet you call my statement "nonsense". How can my own personal opion be nonsense? (I hope I dont need to make a .sig with a disclaimer in it ;) >Well you had better post the alt.ascii-art Charter because I am sure I was not aware that an alt. group required a Charter? However, I feel quite comfident in stating that a.a-a was not created with requests in mind. Not too much of an assumption I assume. >" It's my ball and if you >don't play to my rules I'm taking my ball away. " Well, thats fair enough. But how your relating that to the CFV of r.a.a (mod) I'm not entirely sure ;). >also is not very charitable reflection on all the stuff that has >been and continues to be posted here. It is not by any means rubbish >and many others have praised the content of alt.ascii-art. I dont like it when people twist my words. >think of it I have never seen you answer a request. Why do you leave >it all to other folks ? Because my ascii collection consists of maybe two dozen pics, and it would take me quite a bit of work to upload them here (seriously: copy to ram - gzip it - set system to binary - upload picture - gunzip it - find request post again - inport pic into reply = why would I go through that when there are others who can grab something from their FTP collection in less than 30 seconds? (assuming they know the file names)). >> Your quite free to stick around a.a-a and have it as a request for >> ascii pictures. >That's big of you to grant me that freedom. There you go twisting my words again. You're not a politician by any chance? ;) >And what about all your negative comments about this newsgroup >alt.ascii-art ? Are they justified and superbly informed ? AGAIN, my opinion (did I miss reading something that said personal opinions are not allowed? ;). >I think that sort of attitude is simply unworthy of you and really >quite insulting to other folks who may not equal your artistic >talent. It is very sad that that is how you see things, but that's >the way of it I guess. Argh! What a cheap way to create an insulting paragraph! >As a "Fair Dinkum Aussie" you have a strange concept of fairness. And there's another one. --- That reply took about 45 minutes to write. I hope I don't have to "disclaim" everything I write once again ;). Row.