X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ffde,299d0bc3500e024c X-Google-Attributes: gid10ffde,public X-Google-Thread: 109d8a,535e80416e502a8c X-Google-Attributes: gid109d8a,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,535e80416e502a8c X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-08-08 01:22:20 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ames!waikato!canterbury.ac.nz!equinox.gen.nz!equinox!Colin_Douthwaite Subject: Re: Art, math, realism, ascii (Re: PARASITES INSIDE OF Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.plutonium,alt.ascii-art,sci.math Followup-To: alt.sci.physics.plutonium,alt.ascii-art,sci.math References: <31bdjr$ppn@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <31bp9n$a1h@riscsm.scripps.edu> <31e91i$5fk@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <31j4ev$> <320bbp$d9f@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL3] From: Colin_Douthwaite@equinox.gen.nz (Colin Douthwaite) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 19:45:41 +1200 Organization: Equinox Networks Lines: 97 Xref: bga.com alt.ascii-art:10992 sci.math:17706 Ludwig Plutonium (Ludwig.Plutonium@dartmouth.edu) wrote: : In article : Colin_Douthwaite@equinox.gen.nz (Colin Douthwaite) writes: : > The Mona Lisa has an indefinable quality which has little to do with : > high resolution photography, mathematical definition, or the beauty : > of a female face. > I was hoping that Colin or someone would do a logarithmic spiral > of the same rectangular dimension of the ascii Mona Lisa. Keep hoping :-) > Math will increasingly encroach upon art, and in the future, have > the heavy hand over it. A reasonable prediction given the continuing advance of technology in the formation and presentation of artwork. This does not mean however that mathematics or science will replace art. > The two essential aspects of art are "intention" and "resolution". These are essential elements of art, but there are others. They include the intangible elements present in all art forms which maths and science ( at least in their present form ) are unable to measure or quantify. Art has a lot to do with perception, and perception is highly variable and most difficult to measure. Science and mathematics seem very deficient in handling or addressing intangibles - and so we need Art to assist us. ...and here is another ascii version of Mona Lisa which does perhaps vaguely convey the intangible element but only if you have already seen a reproduction or photo of the Mona Lisa: iIYVVVVXVVVVVVVVVYVYVYYVYYYYIIIIYYYIYVVVYYYYYYYYYVVYVVVVXVVVVVYI+. tYVXXXXXXVXXXXVVVYVVVVVVVVVVVVYVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVXXXXXVXXXXXXXVVYi. iYXRXRRRXXXXXXXXXXXVVXVXVVVVVVVVXXXVXVVXXXXXXXXXXXXXXRRRRRRRRRXVi. tVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRXRXXXXXXXXXXXXXXRRXXXXRRRRXXXXXXXRRRRRRRRRRRRXV+. tVRRBBBRMBRRRRRRRRRXXRRRRRXt=+;;;;;==iVXRRRRXXXXRRRRRRRRMMBRRRRXi, tVRRBMBBMMBBBBBMBBRBBBRBX++=++;;;;;;:;;;IRRRRXXRRRBBBBBBMMBBBRRXi, iVRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBRBBMMV==iIVYIi=;;;;:::;;XRRRRRRBBMMMMMMMMBBRRXi. iVRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMY;IBWWWWMMXYi=;:::::;RBBBMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBBXi, +VRMMRBMMMMMMMMMMMMMMY+;VMMMMMMMRXIi=;:::::=VVXXXRRRMMMMMMMMBBMXi; =tYYVVVXRRRXXRBMMMMMV+;=RBBMMMXVXXVYt;::::::ttYYVYVVRMMMMMMBXXVI+= ;=tIYYVYYYYYYVVVMMMBt=;;+i=IBi+t==;;i;::::::+iitIIttYRMMMMMRXVVI=; ;=IIIIYYYIIIIttIYItIt;;=VVYXBIVRXVVXI;::::::;+iitttttVMMBRRRVVVI+, ;+++tttIttttiiii+i++==;;RMMMBXXMMMXI+;::::::;+ittttitYVXVYYIYVIi;; ;===iiittiiIitiii++;;;;:IVRVi=iBXVIi;::::::::;==+++++iiittii+++=;; ;;==+iiiiiiiiii+++=;;;;;;VYVIiiiVVt+;::::::::;++++++++++iti++++=;; ;;=++iiii+i+++++iii==;;;::tXYIIYIi+=;:::::,::;+++++++++++++++++=;; ;;;+==+ii+++++iiiiit=;;:::::=====;;;::::::::::+++i+++++++++i+++;;; ;;;==+=+iiiiitttIIII+;;;:,::,;;;;:;=;;;::,::::=++++++++==++++++;;; :;====+tittiiittttti+;;::::,:=Ytiiiiti=;:::::,:;;==ii+ittItii+==;; ;;+iiittIti+ii;;===;;:;::::;+IVXVVVVVVt;;;;;::::;;===;+IIiiti=;;;; ;=++++iIti+ii+=;;;=;:::;;+VXBMMBBBBBBXY=;=;;:::::;=iYVIIttii++;;;; ;;++iiiItttIi+++=;;:::;=iBMMMMMMMMMMMXI==;;,::;;:;;=+itIttIIti+;;; ;=+++++i+tYIIiii;:,::;itXMMMMMMMMMMMBXti==;:;++=;:::::;=+iittti+;; ;;+ii+ii+iitiIi;::::;iXBMMMMMWWWWWMMBXti+ii=;::::,,,,:::=;==+tI+;; ;;iiiitItttti;:::;::=+itYXXMWWWWWWMBYt+;;::,,,,,,,,,,,,,:==;==;;;; :;=iIIIttIt+:;:::;;;==;+=+iiittttti+;;:,:,,,,::,,,,,,,,:::;=;==::; ;::=+ittiii=;:::::;;;:;:;=++==;;==;:,,,,,,:;::::,,,,,,,,::;==;;::; :::;+iiiii=;::::,:;:::::;;:;;::;:::,,,,,,,:::;=;;;:,,,,,:::;;::::; :;;iIIIIII=;:::,:::::::,::::,:::,,,,,,,,,,,:;;=;:,,,,,,::::;=;:::; :;==++ii+;;;:::::::::::,,,,,,::,,,,,,,,,,,::::,,,,,,,,,,:,:::::::; ::;;=+=;;;:::;;::,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:::::; ::;=;;;:;:::;;;;::,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,::,,::::; :;;:;::::::,::,,:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:::; :::::::::::;;;:,,,,,,,,,,,,,...,...,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,:; ::::::::;=;;;;;::,,,,,,,,,,,.......,...,,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,; :::::,,:;=;;;;;;;iVXXXVt+:,,....,,,,....,.,,,,,,,.,.....,,,,,,,,:; :,,::,,:::;;;;;;=IVVVXXXXVXVt:,,,,,..,..,,,,.,,,,,..,.,,,,,,,,,,,; ::,::,,,:,:::::,::;=iIYVXVVVVIYIi;,,.,.,,,::,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,::;+itIIIIIIi:;;i++=;;;;;;;;;::,,,...,,..,,,,,,,. :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,=iitVYi++iitt==it;;:;;;;::;;::::,,,......,,,,,,,::. ::,,,,,,,,,,,,,++iiIVIi=;;=;+i;:;+:::,,,,,,,,,,,,,.....,,,,,,,,::, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,;=+it=:::,,,,,,,,,,.,......,,.,..........,,,,,,,,:: :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:=:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,......................,.,,.,.,,: :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:,,,,,,,,,,..,........................,..,...,,: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.....................................,.......,, ,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,...............................................,, itittiiiii+=++=;;=iiiiiiittiiiiii+iii===;++iiitiiiiiii+=====+ii=+i There certainly is something quite exceptional about The Mona Lisa. Maybe we have to include the "Intangible Element" in the chemical Table of Elements ? :-) Bye,