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From: cfbd@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite)
Subject: Re: 5th Anniversary of alt.ascii-art (6)
Date: 1998/09/06
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On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:51:47 GMT, Pete Casso <petecasso@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Colin Douthwaite wrote:
>> Then we have seen the emergence of Pete Casso with his creation of a
>> new subgenre of "Stein Characters", second only to the well-known
>> "Silly Cows" genre in Ascii Art, and by far outstripping the other
>> known genres of Sheep; Owls; Koala Bears, and Luke the Spook.

>Does the above formulation not contain disparaging words?

Not in my view but evidently in yours.

>-> The 'steins are cartoons (encompassing pics, naming, story lines)
>   and not a subgenre of anything else. The 'steins are cartoons with
>   their own unique style. The simplest neutral wording here, 
>   is "Pete Casso created the 'steins."

>-> The cow collection is generally known as such, but you compared
>   the 'steins with the "Silly Cows"
>                         ^^^^^

I suggest you read the Ascii Art section of "The New Hacker's Dictionary"
edited by Eric Raymond.

>Perhaps you may want to edit out the offending words.

Not really, they were not intended or written to be offensive.

>On a more fundamental note, I don't think that you can compare the 'steins
>which are cartoons, with the cows, etc which are basically picture collections
>(with perhaps with the occasional cartoon in them.) I think you need to
>compare apples with apples, i.e. cartoons with cartoons.

I was not aiming at comparisons but showing that other subgenres of
Ascii Art characters have appeared in the past. No one seems to have
mentioned them previously in historical notes about alt.ascii-art.

>You compared in the above quote apples with oranges, i.e. cartoon with picture
>collections, but I am nevertheless curious, what measures did you take in
>making your comparisons in the above quote?

See above. I was not intentionally making comparisons.

I posted this article on recent ascii art history on 17th August, in
advance of its inclusion in this Anniversary posting. There were one or
two comments from people at that time but I think you must have missed
seeing my August 17 posting...that happens with the known unreliability
of Net propogation. So you failed to comment on my article at that time.
However, had you done so, I would probably have answered you in a 
similar way.

Bye,