X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 12cf4e,71ff63b81a4a8f18,start X-Google-Attributes: gid12cf4e,public X-Google-Thread: f6fd3,71ff63b81a4a8f18,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf6fd3,public X-Google-Thread: fd588,71ff63b81a4a8f18,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfd588,public X-Google-Thread: fa35a,71ff63b81a4a8f18,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfa35a,public From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: [Fwd: RFD: comp.graphics.apps.illustrator] Date: 1997/07/24 Message-ID: <33D7BDA9.67A9@Worldnet.att.net> X-Deja-AN: 258558990 Organization: Nahee Enterprises Reply-To: NOSPAM@Worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: alt.binaries,alt.ascii-art.animation,alt.binaries.3d.lightwave,alt.fractal-design This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------665ED96375D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----------------------------------------------------- Replace the NOSPAM with Paul.N.Lee before replying. ----------------------------------------------------- --------------665ED96375D Content-Type: message/news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Path: wn5!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.digital.com!vixie!news.isc.org!bounce-back From: David Thornton Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics.apps.freehand,comp.graphics.apps.pagemaker,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.graphics.misc,comp.publish.prepress Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.apps.illustrator Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <869468329.12254@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.graphics.apps.illustrator Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:58:49 GMT Xref: wn5 news.announce.newgroups:2168 news.groups:148336 comp.graphics.apps.freehand:4773 comp.graphics.apps.pagemaker:10190 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:58573 comp.sys.mac.graphics:26088 comp.graphics.misc:23570 comp.publish.prepress:16440 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.illustrator Newsgroup line: comp.graphics.apps.illustrator Adobe Illustrator. This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.graphics.apps.illustrator . This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. RATIONALE: comp.graphics.apps.illustrator Adobe Illustrator is widely regarded as one of the leading illustration software packages available today. The majority of design and print bureaus have a copy of Illustrator and a large number of other software applications make use of the Illustrator file format. The large user-base suggests that there is a need for a forum where people can start discussions on all aspects of graphic design and illustration involving Illustrator. Usenet newsgroups already exist for other major graphics applications such as Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Freehand and Corel graphics software. Discussion of Illustrator currently occurs in a number of separate newsgroups that were actually designed for the discussion of other graphics software applications. Adobe recently launched Illustrator 7.0 as well as Dimensions 3.0 and Streamline 4.0. All three of these applications are available for both Windows and Macintosh computers. A recent pole amongst the current comp.graphics.apps.* newsgroups suggested that a significant number of people want an Illustrator newsgroup. An Illustrator newsgroup would provide a forum for users to discuss the application as well as to obtain technical support. It would also provide users with a place to learn how to fully utilise the capabilities of these powerful software applications. CHARTER: comp.graphics.apps.illustrator The proposed newsgroup would provide a place for the discussion of Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Dimensions, Adobe Streamline and third-party 'Illustrator compatible' plug-ins available on all computer platforms. Tips, tricks and informational postings would be welcomed as would mutual assistance and support. The newsgroup would not be moderated and would have no official ties or connections with any commercial vendor or developer. Binary postings are not permitted in comp.graphics.apps.illustrator under any circumstances. A separate newsgroup will be created in the alt.* hierarchy where binary files relating to messages in the comp.graphics.apps.illustrator newsgroup can be posted. The binary newsgroup will be called alt.binaries.comp.graphics.apps.illustrator and it will be created shortly after comp.graphics.apps.illustrator. Users of comp.graphics.apps.illustrator should indicate in their messages that binaries have been posted to the separate newsgroup, including the name of the binary, should this be the case. It is possible that some people will post messages asking for illegal copies of software to the newsgroup. Users are encouraged not to follow up or reply to these messages in the newsgroup and to simply ignore them. The newsgroup is for information and support. It is not a marketplace and advertising of any kind is not permitted. Moneymaking schemes, chain letters, excessive crossposting and reposting is also inappropriate. With all violations of the charter, users are encouraged not to follow them up, or reply them in the newsgroup. If you must follow them up, please do so by email. This prevents the newsgroup from deteriorating any further. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD will be cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.graphics.apps.freehand, comp.graphics.apps.pagemaker, comp.graphics.apps.photoshop, comp.sys.mac.graphics, comp.graphics.misc, comp.publish.prepress It will also be made available to relevant private mailing lists, related forums and web sites once it has been posted to Usenet. -- Proponent: David Thornton Visit http://davidthornton.com for more information about the proposed comp.graphics.apps.{illustrator,micrografx,misc,painter,xpress} Usenet newsgroups. --------------665ED96375D--