Re: Muds and co (was Spammed Thought)

Jon Holdsworth (jon@alexia.access.net.au)
Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:32:30 +1000 (EST)

On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, MEO wrote:

> Few months ago, we discussed on this list of a the possible translation
> of a painting to vr (Escher's stairs). For those who missed that string,
> or don't know Escher, he did visual illusions where stairs seem to go
> infinitly upward in a circle, or up and down at the same time, etc. I
> took this idea and tried it in a Moo (ChibaMOO chiba.picosof.com
> 165.227.31.2 port 7777).
>

This is one of my favourite topics of all time (and Escher is one of my
three favourite artists), the building of 'impossible' architectures in
MUDS and VR.
The system I am involved in at the moment, we have discovered, as a
byproduct of the way we designed it supports some types of impossible
environ. Specifically we can 'overlap' space, and do effects like
"Bigger Inside, Smaller Outside", corridors that curl in upon themselves,
and a few other tricks.

One thing I always liked to try and do was visualize how an Escher
Triangle could be made 3D and what it would look like as you walked
around it.

(An Escher Triangle is an equilateral triangle, made of three solid spars
joined at the ends. However, the spars have square cross sections and
the way they join means they couldnt possibly be straight, yet they are).

> down from here.. but who knows." And when you type up or down you go into
> another part of the stairs. You might have gone down or up though. The
> rooms are linked in a maze fashion. All descriptions, links, messages of
> movement are illogical. While walking in that painting you get the feeling
> of a game/dimension/world where up and down are essential but not
> trustworthy.

I feel that 2D and 2.xD will bring us much more than 3D in the near
future. People are starting to do such beautiful stuff.

> I didn't reproduce Escher's painting. I created a sharable (word?)
> interpreation of it. I focussed on the game aspect of it, not the science
> of perception side.
>

Holograms again. Eschers paintings contain far more than just cute
tricks with lines, they are the tip of an iceberg of possibilities.
Sounds like you realised a couple of them.

> Martin
>
>

Jon