On Fri, 12 May 1995, Robert Levandowski wrote:

> To the best of my knowledge, Charles Manson was not motivated by money.

I only heard of this guy once (some mentaly ill serial killer,
right?)...and I guess you're right here.

> Nor has there been any financial reason for the Oklahoma City bombing,

I saw some CNN interviews on the Oklahoma investigations and they talked
to a guy who said one of the suspects always complained about the taxes
and "wanted to do something about it". It may not have been the primary
reason but any fascist ideology (that of the people they arrested) needs
that feeling of "somebody is going to take away what is mine".

> take advice to stop. People kill, rape, rob, maim, cheat, steal, and lie
> even WITH laws; I can't see them turning the other cheek overnight if the
> laws went away.

OK, abolishing laws and levaing everything else is not it. But I'd better
cut it here or leave it to email...hehe, 2nd message here and already
off-topic...

> Money is just a symbol for work. As long as ideas have any value at all,

Yep, that "symbol" character is just the problem, it's too abstract. The
more money you get the less you remember that it's just a symbol.

> I agree that some prison reform is necessary, but abolishing prisons because
> of prison rape is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I'd welcome

OK, that really goes too far. It should be kind of a goal for the next
century but in today's society it's not realistic.

cya!
Matthias

Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 09:13:40 CDT