Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.8.4/8.8.4/CNS-4.1p-nh) with ESMTP id AAA19936 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:12:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix-b.hcf.jhu.edu) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.1-7 #18666) id <01IOJPLX9CPS9FM9D0@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for socgrad@csf.colorado.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:02:42 EDT Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix-b.hcf.jhu.edu) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.1-7 #18666) with SMTP id <01IOJPJBXXW699E1PK@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for socgrad@csf.colorado.edu; Wed, 08 Oct 1997 01:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tombrown@localhost) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA08693 for socgrad@csf.colorado.edu; Wed, 08 Oct 1997 02:00:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 02:00:07 -0400 From: tombrown@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Thomas F Brown) Subject: Re: Marxian Theory: Continuing Validities To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu Message-id: <199710080600.CAA08693@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> >Capitalism is private ownership of the means of production. This is way too simple. Some folks require the existence of a market system as the rock-bottom minimum, but most also include a market for labor as the fundamental qualifier. If you reduce it all the way down to private ownership of the means of production, then you are including practically every society in history that gets more complex than hunting/gathering. Even many hunter/gatherers have social rules about who owns the fruits from which trees and so forth.