Received: from osf1.gmu.edu (osf1.gmu.edu [129.174.1.13]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id PAA07969 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:31:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by osf1.gmu.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv3) id AA26460; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:30:56 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970519174214.007019cc@osf1.gmu.edu> X-Sender: jcalabro@osf1.gmu.edu Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 17:42:14 -0400 To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu From: "Jeanne A.B. Calabro" Subject: Re: virtual communities -- a skeptical note Cc: daniel.ryan@yale.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:58 PM 5/14/97 -0400, DJR wrote: > In other words, we project our >problems and our solutions (and even more so when we are purveyors of >the solutions) onto others rather than trying to understand the actual >situation of others. I agree that this sometimes happens. > >Think about it: where in the hierarchy of >problems facing a poor family would you find the ones for which email is >a good solution? I and my son have used the internet to access an encyclopedia. We can't afford to own an encyclopedia, and our library does not have a *current* set because of budgetary constraints. He had a very poor chemistry teacher, but he could access the science magnet school by e-mail and ask his question, or any of a number of listservs used by chemists. Ability to access information that is unavailable in one's physical community is one important benefit of the internet. However, when I mentioned *potential* equality of access, and its *potential* elimination of many barriers, I was not speaking of poverty, which is mistakenly believed to be the predominant or ONLY basis of inequality (with gender or racial or even age inequality sometimes also recognized, but there are of course no necessity for race or gender or age to be part of virtual identities unless desired). I was speaking of disabilities, which are far more predictive of discrimination in employment and access, among those who can demonstrate an ability to do the job. For people with speech impairments, due to cerebral palsy, throat cancer, or MS or for other reasons, or for people who are deaf, they may not be able to communicate with others without a sign language interpretor at all. For these people, the internet affords easy access to communication that is otherwise impossible. In many communities, grocery orders can be faxed in and delivered to homebound people or people with immune deficiency. Attendance at meetings via the web can be used to accommodate people who cannot otherwise attend for a variety of reasons: mobility impairments, inability to express themselves except electronically, parents with small children and inability to afford childcare, or an unavailable or sick babysitter, a temporary or chronic illness and so on. Actually, I don't know how it is in New Haven, but it is so violent in DC, and the ghetto neighborhood I grew up in Boston (Dorchester), that to show your face was to risk death, especially if you were a good student. No-one suspected that my son stayed after school to access the internet on the computer, because he could just as easily have been serving detention. He was able to explore a whole world without actually being able to go anywhere. I am legally blind half the time, but I can "read" journals by scanning them in and having the computer read them to me. The same goes for e-mail. When I teach, I have my students send their questions to me by e-mail. Then I can answer them and distribute my answers if appropriate, to all the students in the class at once, many of whom probably had the same question, or perhaps misunderstood the assignment totally and did not even realize they needed the question answered. I have them submit papers on disk. I have screen magnification software and I can then easily grade them and annotate my comments or corrections at the same time. If the roads are iced and snowed over (the university never closes!), they know they can send assignments due by e-mail. Not all limitations are physical disabilities! Students with cognitive disabilities or learning disabilities can often compensate by use of a computer, and there are even programs specifically designed to develop targetted areas of the brain to help correct these disabilities. Frankly many with visual or other impairments would not be able to work without a computer. I know a man who became a quadriplegic due to an automobile accident, who was able to continue his job by telecommuting from home with his computer. I would not be able to teach college without my computer. There are many more needs searching for solutions than you realize! And many more inequalities than poverty! And there are many people with rare diseases, who can't even find a doctor who can explain what a diagnosis is or what it means, or whether a treatment exists, but they can perhaps connect with NORD's (National Organization of Rare Diseases) database, and locate a researcher doing a study on that disease or with knowledge or expertise in it. Or they can perhaps link up with other people with a similar diagnosis and perhaps find a simple treatment that works, or something that helps them live with their situation. At the very least, they will find someone who can validate their experience. This is how experiential knowledge emerges. Experiential knowledge does not exist as long as people only understand their experiences to be idiosyncratic and anecdotal. But experiential knowledge develops by people with similar experiences coming to see those experiences as being shared by others in a similar situation, and as bearing knowledge important to understand a shared condition. Experiential knowledge can develop from listservs devoted to common themes, i.e., via the internet. Experiential knowledge also empowers. That is the point. Inequalities of all kinds equate to inequality of power and unequal access to the knowledge required to gain power, to gain employment and to gain economic stability. Parents of children with disabilities are all the time sharing things that work to get the educational resources their child needs. If computer access were more readily available poor parents of children with disabilities would be able to gain the same knowledge. The day will (hopefully) come when poor people can get their food stamps printed out by the computer at the public library down the block, rather than having to pay bus fare or walk miles to line up for hours at the welfare office across town, or maybe where they will have an ID card to swipe at the console at the grocery store rather than have physical food stamps at all. The day will perhaps come where a single mother will be loaned a computer to study from home rather than being unable to access an education or have to find childcare of wait for years on a waiting list for an ESL program, or a GED program at the high school across town, or give up on a chance for a college education as training programs become limited to six months prior to job placement. I am however not sure that a lot of focus in the area of computer development and programming is being placed on addressing these needs at present, but perhaps as people with needs gain understanding of the potential, they will start thinking about the possibilities. Your point about computers being a solution in search of a problem overlooks the problems experienced by people without physical access at present. However, it is a point well-taken in reference to our society at large. Other than those with disabilities, does computer access accomplish anything that could not be accomplished by other means, albeit more slowly? I think it does but only for a few things, not the many that the computer has become popular for, but by having a computerized society, or one that communicates and accomplishes other tasks by computer, more complete integration of those with disabilities becomes possible, since those with disabilities may only be able to perform many, even basic, functions with computers, whereas others who could do some or maybe most of these functions without computers (thus segregating or making conspicious or isolated those with disabilities) use computers for these functions because it is easier, faster, more fun, more popular, or they just prefer, to do so. It is obvious that you use a computer, and use e-mail. If you didn't like to do so, didn't want to do so, or found no purpose or benefit in doing so, it is fair to presume that you would not do so. If you are doing so under duress, because you are "required" to do so, then it is fair to assume that if you could succeed in this world without using the computer or e-mail that you would. Would it not be arrogant to assume that those "less fortunate" than you, are less likely to like using a computer, or to benefit or find purpose in using a computer? Isn''t it unrealistic to assume that, if you need to use the computer to succeed in this world that others "less fortunate" can succeed without it? Or should? Are you assuming that they don't want to succeed in the same way you want to? When talking about inequality it is important to not incorporate the problematic distinctions into the sociological response. There is not really much difference between the poor and the nonpoor, or those with disabilities and others in society, all of which are subject to some kind of limitation. As those with virtual identities meet in electronic communities, differences in economics, appearance, gender, age, race, physical ability and so on are not apparent, and do not factor in unless they are asserted. People with common interests, or aspirations will exchange e-mail and share opinions, who would not even shake hands or even meet in the real world. Just a little food for thought. Jeanne Calabro _____________________________________________________________________________ Jeanne A.B. Calabro Home Phone: 703/450-5460 104 Norwood Place E-mail: jcalabro@osf1.gmu.edu Sterling, Virginia 20164-8503 Affiliation: Brandeis University ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sociology changes the world." Personal opinion _____________________________________________________________________________