Received: from osf1.gmu.edu (osf1.gmu.edu [129.174.1.13]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id PAA07943 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by osf1.gmu.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv3) id AA11762; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:30:48 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970519153038.007019cc@osf1.gmu.edu> X-Sender: jcalabro@osf1.gmu.edu Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:30:38 -0400 To: David Katz From: "Jeanne A.B. Calabro" Subject: Re: Virtual Identities and Communities ...refs ??? -Reply Cc: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I agree with you that the Internet is a medium in which marginalized >groups can build community--I have found this to be the case in my own >research on Neo-Pagans. However, I am highly skeptical of any claim >that the Internet can be used to overcome inequalities. Let's face it, >outside of Bill Gates' fantasy land, economic class (and associated >educational opportunities) will continue to be >a significant factor in who gets Internet access. I said I was excited about the *potential" that the internet can be used to overcome inequalities "that is, once computers are more readily available to all." Many public libraries and certainly facilities at community colleges and state universities provide internet access to their communities. My son's (very poor) public high school did (of course, he went to school early or left late in order to use the computer facilities). You do not necessarily need to *own* a computer or have it in your home in order to enjoy access. (I have one provided by a grant I work on) Community-based resources may well be an area to focus some attention on. I am not talking from a theoretical base, or fantasyland experience here. I went to a ghetto high school with no college prep track, running out of courses to take early in my junior year. I worked three part-time jobs, one as lab assistant during school hours, to save money for college and certainly didn't have a lot of spare money. But I LIVED in the public library, and when I finished reading the books that interested me there, I discovered interlibrary loan or took the subway to the MIT library or the Beth Israel Hospital library (I networked to get permission). I also took courses at MIT taught by MIT grad students for next-to-nothing, and walked to a nearby school to be tutored by volunteers from Boston College in geometry for which no course existed in my high school. I went to programs put on by the Boston Globe for high school newspaper editors where I got to meet Washington political correspondents, or jazz festival directors and Herbie Mann. I attended free lecture series at the Museum of Science. When I interviewed for college, I found that I was considered "disadvantaged." There are certainly not enough of these resources, and early damage to self-esteem can often blind children to their potential and so make them impervious to the resources that do exist. Rural communities present even greater challenges because of a paucity of public resources in these communities, although sharing among community members who know each other is often greater in such communities. However, I find buying into the stereotypes of stratification and the victimization of have-notism is a problematic total dismissal of the strengths of communities. It seems to be only the privileged that regard lack of privilege as epiphenomenal and deterministically dooming. The internet has a great potential for making knowledge and access more equally available, if and when computers are more readily accessible (whether in the home or the community). >Also, I'm not sure how >forming virtual communities translates into the "cultural authority" that you >speak of. A marginalized group that has a strong sense of community >identity is still marginalized. Cultural authority and political authority are two different things. Cultural authority is the power to define oneself, to claim and define one's own problems, and to characterize oneself, one's goals, one's needs, or, more particularly to define the group or subculture to which one belongs, to claim and define it's problems, to characterize it, it's goals, it's needs, and how it wants to be be addressed and responded to by other groups or the dominant culture, rather than to have the dominant culture project it's own perspective and position and identity (often the reverse negative) into the group or subculture. This can be accomplished on the internet, given access, with the use of one's voice. Cultural authority is claimed when a parent of a child with Down syndrome says "I'm not going to let the school psychologist or my family or my neighbors see my child as a tragedy, because after I got over the initial shock that is not how I feel." Or, "I am not going to let the therapists keep telling me my daughter with Down Syndrome will never be able to read, because she knew the alphabet at age 3 and began to read store sign's to me when she was in kindergarten and she is playing word games on our computer." Cultural authority is gained when therapists and parents are speculating about sexual development of their children with Down Syndrome and someone with Down Syndrome enters the discussion and starts talking about his marriage and how he is raising a normal child he had with his wife, supporting his family as a computer programmer. Or when parents and builders and others are discussing living arrangements for their adult children with Down syndrome, and a person with Down Syndrome sends a very thoughtful, sensitive message about how it feels to only be considered for a group home when they have just gotten an undergraduate degree from college and really want to live independently on their own. It also happens when parents are wringing their hands over the pathetic future earnings of their baby with Down Syndrome in a sheltered workshop, and a girl with Down Syndrome reports that she is active in the disability rights movement at the law school she is attending. Marginalized people who are labeled as incompetent to speak for themselves in society at large, and so are never asked what they think or feel, or desire or need, can gain voice via the internet, and their input is encountered by others who would never come across it in normal everyday discourse. Politicians are asked about the needs of their constituents, deans are asked about the needs of the faculty, school boards are asked about the needs of teachers and students, doctors are asked about the needs of patients, administrators are asked about what the insured want and need, social workers are asked about the needs and behavior of people who are poor, single mothers, or pregnant teens, and so on. I have encountered someone from all of these groups, and I mean all. on the internet. I have heard perspectives I had never heard elsewhere. Especially I have heard people speaking for themselves to a wide audience who may never have been heard before outside their own intimate circle. Patients often complain about the imputed attitudes of doctors, and I have heard doctors state their own feelings and attitudes directly. The internet or virtual reality is a much more open forum for participants. And yes, the groups may still be marginalized, but their members are not shy about rejecting the authority of others to name them, and talk about their needs and motivations, and desires, and so on, and to claim the cultural authority to speak for themselves, and to do it very effectively and competently. Political authority is another thing, but perhaps the ability of powerful actors to "represent" marginalized groups will erode as these groups find a forum to speak for themselves. Again, political authority is something else, but certainly, not just perhaps, the ability of powerful actors to speak for marginalized groups erodes as these groups find a forum to speak for themselves, and so members of these marginaluzed groups lay claim to cultural authority. Jeanne Calabro > >David Katz >Graduate Student >Loyola University Chicago > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ >>>> "Jeanne A.B. Calabro" 05/13/97 12:22am >>>>A lot of people worry about the current self-selection of membership >in these communities, because there is a threshold of skills and >education and economics in order to have the means to access the >internet. After my research, however, I am really excited about the >potential for the internet to overcome many of the inequalities >experienced by marginal populations in terms of having voice, cultural >authority, and access, that is, once computers are more readily available >to all. > > _____________________________________________________________________________ Jeanne A.B. Calabro Home Phone: 703/450-5460 104 Norwood Place E-mail: jcalabro@osf1.gmu.edu Sterling, Virginia 20164-8503 Affiliation: Brandeis University ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sociology changes the world." Personal opinion _____________________________________________________________________________