Received: from duncan.ssc.wisc.edu (duncan.ssc.wisc.edu [144.92.190.57]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id PAA26112 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:18:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from elaine.ssc.wisc.edu by duncan.ssc.wisc.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/10May96-0433PM) id AA16721; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:18:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (kwehr@localhost) by elaine.ssc.wisc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA02980 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:18:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Wehr To: Sociology Graduate Students -- International Subject: Re: questions In-Reply-To: <199705092008.OAA23671@csf.Colorado.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 9 May 1997, M.HOOVER wrote: > it is a feeling among some of the students here that it might hurt your > grades if you disagree with this way of thinking. We have one > professor who believes that any criticism of Marx is a product of > "ideology". Does anyone else out there feel this pressure to > conform to a particular way of thinking? hmmm. we have had quite the interesting discussion of ideology here at this listserv a few weeks ago...so without bringing all that up again, my recommendation is always to inform yourself about the individual who is in a position of social power over y0ou, and learn more about the subject, or as much at least, as they know...that way you can argue successfully. in this instance, i would make an argument out of the work of Maclellan or Eagleton that ideology is a much larger concept than just that which is not Marxism. Marxism itself must be examined as ideological. Incidentally, Marx was never clear on this issue, he wrote several slightly different versions of his thoughts on ideology, and they are not consistent. Don't get me wrong, people can be inconsistent, especiallyw hen they have long careers. One of my favorite expressions that MArx invokes regarding false consciousness is the metaphor of the camera obscura: false consciousness is just an inverted and reversed version of the "correct" social reality...recall the famous saying: analogy is the last refuge of an intellectual scoundrel. In any case, you might pressure your prof. to clarify what s/he means by ideological, and then fire back some critiques of hsi defintion. that is, if you're the conforntational type. if not, you can always punt. --Kevin mediocrity thrives on standardization Kevin Wehr kwehr@ssc.wisc.edu 608.256.8961