Received: from mail-relay2.its.yale.edu (mail-relay2.its.yale.edu [130.132.21.73]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with ESMTP id UAA21614 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 20:31:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from aeternitas.cis.yale.edu (root@aeternitas.cis.yale.edu [130.132.143.31]) by mail-relay2.its.yale.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15208 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hud03.som.yale.edu (hud03.som.yale.edu [130.132.152.116]) by aeternitas.cis.yale.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20287 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 22:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33810CCC.7D87@yale.edu> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 22:30:37 -0400 From: DJR Reply-To: daniel.ryan@yale.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Followup: virtual communities -- a skeptical note References: <3.0.1.32.19970519174214.007019cc@osf1.gmu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to Jeanne for her thoughtful response, especially the concrete examples. I agree with almost all the points she raises with regard to particular utilities of new electronic media, especially her point about considering forms of inequality other than economic. My purpose was not simply to be a skeptic, but to suggest a rule of thumb for thinking about this stuff so as not to be taken in by our own enthusiasm. For the record, I'm a big fan of the stuff and my current work involves, among other things, using technology as a tool in community development. I stand by my "skeptical point," though: be sure we can identify and understand real problems and see how the technology is actually the appropriate tool. Jeanne has done pretty much that with several of her examples. My original point was that I believe caution is often in order. Many technologies have arrived with the potential to "overcome inequalities" (and the folks who stand to make millions off of them are often the ones most enthusiastically pointing this out) -- e.g., moveable type printing, automobile, television, birth control pill, plumbing -- and many of these have made a tremendous difference. The distinction I'm (still) trying to think through, though, is between looking at how the technology can be used as a TOOL to solve real problems and counter inequalities, rather than as a mere treatment for symptoms of inequality. An example: many people want to wire City Hall and put terminals "in the neighborhoods" so that citizens will have a more direct voice with which to speak to the mayor. This suggests that the "energy barrier" for using telephone or writing a note is higher than sending email. Maybe so, may not, but the real communication problem here is not speaking to the mayor, it is speaking to fellow citizens so that you can know that you all have something similar to speak to the mayor about. Setting up a mechanism for doing that that really lowers the "cost" of listening to one another's fellow citizens WOULD be using the technology to address a real problem and it has radical potential. Guess which one City Hall, public utilities and local corporations are touting. -- Dan Ryan Yale University Insitution for Social and Policy Studies P.O. Box 208209 New Haven, CT 06520-8209 daniel.ryan@yale.edu New Haven On Line http://statlab.stat.yale.edu/nhol