Received: from pewtrusts.com (pewtrusts.com [204.242.21.3]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id OAA03781 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:45:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PEW-Message_Server by pewtrusts.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:45:42 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:46:30 -0500 From: "Jonathon E. Mote" To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: You're In Serious Denial -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I don't presume to answer for Thomas, but it looks like we need to depersonalize this discussion in order for it to remain productive. Some of the ways we might try to find "objective" evidence might be to identify the following according to gender/race: differentials in pay, frequency (or lack thereof) of publications and presentations, distribution of editorial boards, distribution of faculty (particularly at "prestigious" universities), et al. I would think it is possible to come up with any number of similar variables. Jonathon E. Mote jem@pewtrusts.com >>> Jill Ann McCorkel 06/24/97 04:19pm >>> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Thomas F Brown wrote: > << But is there any evidence that marginalization > of any particular demographic group in sociological > work actually exists today? >> > > institutional structures or practices, but I need to see some objective > evidence that they really are marginalized. > Just for fun, what would constitute "objective evidence" in your world, Thomas? Jill McCorkel Univ. Delaware