Received: from duncan.ssc.wisc.edu (duncan.ssc.wisc.edu [144.92.190.57]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id IAA15613 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from elaine.ssc.wisc.edu by duncan.ssc.wisc.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/10May96-0433PM) id AA16819; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:29:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (egrodsky@localhost) by elaine.ssc.wisc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24095; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:29:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:29:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Grodsky Reply-To: Eric Grodsky To: TR Young Cc: Sociology Graduate Students -- International Subject: Re: On the Sociology of Prestige, Rank, and Place In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970624073750.0e6f6b5c@pop.uvm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, TR Young wrote: > B. Within sociology, the opposite appears to be true; high > status regimes are those which have the least practical > application. .. .. .. > Theory has highest standing inside sociology, in terms of honor, > knee and approbation since it deals with the largest possible > questions of why, who, how, where and when. One leaves > data when one enters into this rarified field; imagination, > inspiration and insight yeild more elegant and more general > statements than data ever could. > All I really get from this is that you consider yourself a theorist. Don't forget: when you leave the data the 'rarified' air up there might get a little too thin for clear, self-critical thought. In my opinion, those statements which are so "elegant and... general" that data could not support them are best left to those not in the business of science: a business most would associate with empiricism. Back on the original topic, I know of no research on the relative prestige of different branches of sociology. In response to the thread about the prestige of sociologists outside of the discipline, the prestige score offered by Nakao and Treas (1994) is 61 for sociologist, and 74 for professors (including professors of sociology). The focus of their study was not on sociology per se, but on occupational prestige and the socioeconomic index for the employed civilian population in the U.S. For a point of reference, physicians have a prestige of 86, mechanical engineers 64, receptionists 39. Bottom line, in my opinion, is that the prestige of different branches of sociology does not have the reliability of occupational prestige in the general population. But for those of you keeping score, the department here offers more resources (in space, money, and faculty) to demographers, stratification researchers, environmental sociologists and other researchers using quantitative methods than to those who choose not to use quantitative techniques in their work. I think, however, to equate the ability to command resources directly with prestige would be a mistake. Eric Grodsky University of Wisconsin- Madison