Received: from mercury.acs.unt.edu (mercury.acs.unt.edu [129.120.1.1]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with ESMTP id IAA15482 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jove.acs.unt.edu (11000@jove.acs.unt.edu [129.120.1.41]) by mercury.acs.unt.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11661 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:21:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (rmcdanel@localhost) by jove.acs.unt.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA15862 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:21:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:21:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Rodney Arthur McDanel To: Sociology Graduate Students -- International Subject: Re: tracking In-Reply-To: <97Jun23.201234edt.123-7@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Thomas F Brown wrote: Quite simply, all research begins with a question, followed by some ideas as to what the answer is. The next step is to perform the research to gather and analyze the data necessary to support or discount the ideas. No, I don't suggest you take anything on faith, except perhaps religious beliefs. What I do suggest is that we think very hard about where tracking, as it has been presented in this threat, originates and look there for our data. I suggest that its origins are deeply rooted in the soil of society. Looking at tracking in terms of individual choices that may or may not be "forced upon" one by social pressures is like cutting off weeds at ground level. Until you pull the roots the damn things keep growing back. The research should, IMHO, look for the reasons 1) why the forces of society tend to push people into "tracks" and 2) why people accept the fitness of being tracked. Rod McDanel > > > >I don't doubt a bit that tracking exists. > >Nor do I doubt that it extends far beyond gender issues or that, to some > >degree, we all perpetuate and fall victim to it. > > So we're just supposed to take it on faith because you don't doubt it? > That's not enough for me. I want to see an argument based on logic and > evidence. We can hash out whether or not the logic is sound and the > evidence is valid, but until we get down to that level, you're talking > theology, not science. > >