Received: from mailhub.cns.ksu.edu (grunt.ksu.ksu.edu [129.130.12.17]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with ESMTP id IAA18168 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from abc (dcoon@abc.ksu.ksu.edu [129.130.12.3]) by mailhub.cns.ksu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/mailhub+tar@ksu.edu) with SMTP id JAA26860 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:31:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by abc (SMI-8.6/1.34) id JAA15644; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:31:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:31:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dave Alan Coon (:" X-Sender: dcoon@abc.ksu.ksu.edu To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: tracking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rodney Arthur McDanel wrote: > Perhaps the best argument in support of tracking in terms of gender is > the assumption that "gender" means "female" and that the only issues > examined by gender scholars deal with feminism. Properly, the field > examines both genders. Look back at the current thread. Some who have > posted have themselves unwittingly supported this assumption through, on > one side, implying that men could not possibly understand or appreciate > gender (women's) issues because they were men, and on the other side > arguing that men could understand women's issues. Others have taken > different approaches, but all lead to the same station--gender=female. > Perhaps a more useful approach would be to recognize that gender is a much > broader field. View gender in only feminist terms is extremely limiting. > Imagine if criminologists considered murder the only area of crime worth > studying. > > Rod McDanel > UNT > > I agree whole-heartedly with this acessment. Most studies dealing with gender ten to focus on female s or femminism. THe argument is, "well sociology has typically been about males, so it is time to do work specifically about females," I am not opposed to this argument, there is some validity to that statement, but I am sick and tired of those who say that focusing on the male gender specifically has no place in sociology of gender. I am glad to see that the ABL and the WNBA finally got off the ground, it is about time that female athletes had an equal chance, but as in most occupations unfortunately, females are still paid LESS for the same type of work, whatever happened to equal work for equal pay. One study indicated that the "gender gap" in wages has actually increased, and the number of so called "pink collar" jobs has also increased. The women's basketball leagues don't seem to be nearly as competitive as far as employment opportunity, the rivalry between teams just is nto strong enough to support multi-million dollar superstars like Michael Jordan (who incidentally has a BA in Sociology). While there are a few "superstars" in women's basketball, they make no where near Jordan's Salary. Hopefully with time, the competitivnes and market opportunities will change so that maybe one dawy women's basketball will become like men's basketball. SOmehow I doubt this will happen, (look at the failed attempt to put Femle players in the NHL), but I hope that it does. Sincerely, David Coon http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~dcoon MA Student & Graduate Teaching Asst. Dept. of Sociology, Anthropology, & Social Work http://www.ksu.edu/sasw/ Kansas State University --Ideas that are real "are real in their consequences" W.I. Thomas