Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with ESMTP id SAA15011 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix-b.hcf.jhu.edu) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.1-7 #18666) id <01ILWEE5S6KW8WW33Z@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for socgrad@csf.colorado.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:26 EDT Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix-b.hcf.jhu.edu) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.1-7 #18666) with SMTP id <01ILWEDX54AA91VVWT@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for socgrad@csf.colorado.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tombrown@localhost) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA23066 for socgrad@csf.colorado.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:10 -0400 From: tombrown@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Thomas F Brown) Subject: Re: Pro-Cite Vs. Endnote Plus To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu Message-id: <199708010034.UAA23066@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> >Snip: >I hate to disagree, but I believe you can run many more things on a mac >than you might suspect. Procite, sas, spss, tons o word processing, >mathematica ans it's statistical pack, ect. I would hate to see someone >that wants a mac not to get one. I specifically mentioned lisrel and nudist as being unavailable for mac (I think). I don't know of any mac program that will do structural equations modeling. Do you? Maybe mathematica would do it, but it certainly wouldn't be as easy as lisrel, and that stuff is hard enough to deal with already when you're first learning it. Having to tweeze mathematica to pull it off--most likely with no one at the dept being able to help you--would make the learning curve formidable indeed. What about programs for organizing qualitative data--is there anything for the mac that is as powerful as nudist? Another concern would be in dealing with cd-rom databases. Most of them have programs built-in that self-extract the data into compatible formats for common pc programs, allowing you to easily browse and search the data. Would this be a problem if you use a mac? You could get the data off one way or another, eventually, but if the built-in browser/extractor didn't work, you'd be in for a huge amount of extra computer wrangling that wouldn't be necessary on a pc. Again, I hate to dis the mac since I prefer them myself, but I found I needed a pc to do most of my analysis work, and that's what pays the bills around here and keeps me living in the lap of luxury. Even if I ran the simpler analyses--basic regressions and stuff-- that are possible on the mac, my employers would still want to see a printout that they can read without going to any extra trouble, which means having to use whichever program they tell me to use. The best answer is to find out what they use at your dept, or wherever your RA gig is likely to be.