Received: from mail.sdsu.edu (mail.sdsu.edu [130.191.25.3]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with ESMTP id VAA10712 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:23:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from ebb3p6.sdsu.edu (ebb3p6.sdsu.edu [130.191.4.7]) by mail.sdsu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00321 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:22:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.16.19970130203445.36cfc4d8@mail.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: vigil@mail.sdsu.edu Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:34:48 -0800 To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu From: Joe Surfer Subject: Re: Super-Bowl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jeff Janosko - It is unfortunate that a lot of subtle relationships among concepts cannot be effectively communicated in ascii. For your information the mailing list I refered to is called Bad Subjects, it contains a fair percentage of people who are/ write and assumably live queer theory. For "us / them" to joke about sacred cows in amercian pop cultural stereotypes is a special treat. I think it can be called deconstruction. You take away the power of an issue when you change who is the speaker and reverse the audience. What was once the tools of the oppressor now becomes the plaything of the children who don't remember what they were used for in the old days. The Bad Subjects list is fully archived and has their own webpage and journal. If you want pointers let me know. I'd love to introduce some people to it. THAT list people unsubscribe from because of the high traffic. Unlike this one where TR Young's lectures are largely the most coherent thread and the ideas presented in each go largely uncommented upon. C'mon, even a few flames are nice now and then, that's why the alt.* hierarchy is the biggest concentration of Usenet traffic. > If folks on the list wish to discuss the Super Bowl, I think the >game's relationship to domestic violence (which you mention) would lead to a >more productive discussion. I floated it for that reason. > By the way, Mr. "Surfer", what is your real name? My surname is on the end of my email address. Just like yours, just like most people! And to throw some gasoline on the fire: **************************************************** "Now, I know there's some reflexively irate homosexual in the crowd thinking "How DARE you, Miss Thing!" and what I'm saying to you is this: I think so little of the variations in human sexuality that I refuse to treat you like a Fabrege egg... You are part of the human collective; come, join in our reindeer games, you too can be poked fun at." - Dennis Miller.