Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with ESMTP id MAA02950 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:47:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA20738 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from as2511-11.sl012.cns.vt.edu (as2511-11.sl012.cns.vt.edu [128.173.35.145]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA28380 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:47:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702061947.OAA28380@sable.cc.vt.edu> X-Sender: jjanosko@mail.vt.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 14:45:31 +0500 To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu From: jjanosko@vt.edu (Jeff Janosko) Subject: Riki Lake and Victimization Hi David, I'm not familiar with the Kaminer book...I'll check it out. I agree with your assessment of the world's "Riki Lakes"...to sensationalize the disadvantages associated with another's social location is seldom productive. If nothing else, it encourages false consciousness by reducing the experience of social inequities to a psycho-pathological level, leading to the impression that those of us with legitimate social concerns are just a bunch of malcontents; if we'd just "sit down, shut up and work together" we could solve our problems and "rebuild our (lost) sense of community". Of course, "sitting down and shutting up" only sustains the status quo. The only way to negotiate an egalitarian society is to expose the hegemony embedded in social relations..and in speech acts. Hence my (perhaps hyper) concern with stereotypical epithets. I'm glad you're on the list...Jeff Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:46:41 -0400 (AST) >From: David Francis Mercer >To: Sociology Graduate Students -- International >Subject: Re: Super-Bowl > >On the contrary, I think that in some, if not most instances, such >material is hurtful and degrading. However, the source, and the meaning >that source ascribes to the statements, is as important, if not more >important, than the statement. I think we are all intelligent enough (I >AM including you in this, I am not intending sarcasm) to dismiss as >harmless something that comes from an innocuous source. but what troubles >me more than anything is the creation of the popular culture of >victimization, as evidenced by shows such as Ricki Lake, etc. Wendy >Kaminer's brilliant book, "I'm Dysfunctional, You're Dysfunctional", has >some really good things to say on the topic of the victim culteure, and >self-help groups. I simply believe we should all be proud of who we are, >and not constantly be seeking to necessarily take offence at any instance. >You are correct that we should remain aware, however. The word "Weimar" >springs to mind as an example. > You know, I've been passively reading this site for a while, and >it feels good to finally get involved in a good discussion. As a symbolic >interactionist, there isn't much opportunity to share a good exchange of >views here at Dalhousie. Looking forward to more discussion. > >David Mercer >Sociology Department >Dalhousie University >Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada > >