Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu (uconnvm.uconn.edu [137.99.26.3]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.8.4/8.8.4/CNS-4.1p-nh) with SMTP id SAA05136 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:38:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7537; Mon, 08 Dec 97 20:36:41 EST Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu (NJE origin DAVIDSON@UCONNVM) by UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (LMail V1.2c/1.8c) with BSMTP id 1884; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:36:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 97 20:27:23 EST From: Alan Davidson Subject: time limits (to continue ....) To: socgrad@CSF.COLORADO.EDU Message-Id: <971208.203614.EST.DAVIDSON@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Being somewhat closer to the negotiations on this issue than I have time and energy to (being part-owner of a grad. student listserv here doesn't help), the sentiment of the graduate school is exactly what Danielle implies -- departments in this political environment (the wider political environment surrounding higher education) have to do a better job of getting students through more quickly -- and that involves monitoring how long students are taking -- and employment authorizations are one way of doing this. Sure, it is possible to get out in five years past ba -- if one has relatively few exams to take, relatively few courses to take, relatively few courses to teach as the instructor of record, and a Major Advisory system where the Major Advisor and the student are understood to be in control of the process and where department members and Associate Advisors are resource persons/colleagues. The problem is many programs aren't structured in this way.