Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id HAA19928 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from smtp.uvm.edu (132.198.142.106) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.F30C71F0@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 9:18:15 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970415081357.26bf5442@pop.uvm.edu> X-Sender: tryoung@pop.uvm.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu From: TR Young Subject: Re: White Collar Crime Todd: thanks for your thoughtful comment. ....and you might want to consider the labor of those many who have worked free so much that you could learn and think... DesCartes once said, cogito, ergo sum, by which most hold that to mean that he meant that there was at least one unassailable proposition which can stand against doubt; I think, therefore there must be a thinker who thinks, namely me. There is another 'reading' of that aphorism: Unless I think, I am less than a human being; if I don't think, I don't exist...whether there is a god or not. ....and you might want to think of those who would love to have your vacant seat in class if only they had the chance to sit there...so they could have the basic tools with which to become a thinking human being... what do you think? TR At 05:01 PM 4/14/97 -0800, you wrote: >TR Young: > >I see little, if any, logic in your suggestion that a student >cutting class is the equilivant to a doctor sending an >unqualified staff member to do their work or to a worker >stealing from their employer. > >Last I checked, the university that I attend was not paying >me to attend their classes. I have paid my way through >my education and should be able to make a decision as to >whether a class is worthwile to attend or not. Your >claim that college students are unable to manage their >owm priorities is equally absurd. > >I feel that the true crime comes from universities that hold >on to professors that should have retired years ago. When >a professor stops putting effort into making their classes >interesting or into updating their lectures, I as a student >feel that I have been taken advantage of. > >If a student chooses not to attend class, it is their loss. >They miss out on the learning process and the instructor >still gets paid. I see your point, but disagree with the >arguement. > >Todd Huff >C.S.U. Fullerton >