Received: from medicine (medicine.bsd.uchicago.edu [128.135.32.3]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id NAA06885 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:15:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gmed-pc12 (gmed-pc12.bsd.uchicago.edu [128.135.86.162]) by medicine (8.6.10/BSD-3.1) with SMTP id OAA15853 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:23:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199606101923.OAA15853@medicine> X-Sender: ghougham@medicine.bsd.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:21:17 -0400 To: socgrad@csf.colorado.edu From: ghougham@medicine.bsd.uchicago.edu (Gavin Hougham) The recent postings on social psychology, chaos/complexity, non-linearity and most recently "quantum sociodynamics" reminded me of part of the argument in the last chapter of _Habits of the Heart_ (actually, an appendix in the original 1985 edition, but also see the updated edition with a new Introduction dated January, 1996). Bellah, et al.'s essay on "Social Science as Public Philosophy" speaks to some of the groping unease expressed here with the inability of sociology (or social psych, or ethology, or biology...) alone to "get it right." If I am not wrong, I hear lots of people saying either, "Well, OK, but that doesn't explain X, Y, or Z in the right proportions," OR "We are not parsing out to the various disciplines the explanatory tasks in the right proportions." As Lynn S. wrote in a recent post: >> When all else fails, try a sociological explanation first! Bellah et al. speak to these "sociological reasons" in the "professional" nature of the modern academy, and argued: "For knowledge of society as a whole involves not merely the acquisition of useful insights from neighboring disciplines but transcending disciplinary boundaries altogether.... The most important boundary that must be transcended is the recent and quite arbitrary boundary between the social sciences and the humanities." Their remarks also remind me of a much older essay by C.P. Snow (?) on the "two worlds" of science... (cite, anyone?). Starts to sound like what Jean C. called for when she said: >>Valuable as such models are, they don't yet address things I consider >>to be more fundamental about social life, such as identity, meaning, >>the nature of agency and action, consciousness, and all the 'why' >>questions. Well, here is a program for the ambitious: What "discipline" can synthesize and transcend all these boundaries? IS it sociology? Is it the sociology we have now? To what extent have extant or historically placed disciplines (moral philosophy ?) tried, and under what circumstances? What warrants are used in these projects? Have fun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gavin Hougham University of Chicago ----------------------------------------------------------------------