Sun, 9 Oct 1994 10:44:45 -0700 for Date: Sun, 09 Oct 94 13:19:50 EDT From: Steve Harvey Subject: response to albers To: SOCGRAD@UCSD.EDU I'm not "so riled up." There was a discussion, initiated by others, over the appropriateness of using socgrad as a format for delivering non-interactive lectures. My initial response was that I believed TR Young had a right to say what he wants, anyway he wants, but that I found (what appeared at the time to be) the rhetorical ploy of couching posts as unauthored decrees of Truth to be counterproductive. After receiving further information, I admitted that some of those original assumptions may have been misunderstandings on my part, but that I still wanted to know why he/she refered to him/herself in the third person. These, to me, are legitimate questions for a given discourse, because I consider it productive to reduce "smokescreens" surrounding ideas to a minimum, in order to best compare and assess whatever ideas are on the table. I may, as Albers says, "protest too much," though, as far as I can tell, all I've done is present a perspective and ask relevant questions, some of which have been answered (and, miraculously, TR Young switched to the first person). So, Dale, "why don't you just sit back and enjoy" my contribution, as you suggest is the appropriate reaction to posts, or, as I suggest (and have done), perceive, consider, and engage? There is no reason for anyone on this list, no matter how couched, to try to silence any voice. If there's something I said which you find logically or empirically flawed, or some manner of saying it that you find either disengenuous or inflammatory, then by all means, say so. But, the fact that I say what I have to say, in and of itself, is not open to criticism. (Nor have I ever objected to Young saying what he has to say). Steve Harvey