Tue, 4 Oct 1994 04:22:50 -0700 for by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V4.3-11 #5489) id <01HHU5DXRF0099W46Q@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU>; Mon, 03 Oct 1994 10:54:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 1994 10:54:41 -0500 (CDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU From: 1k1mgm@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (Christopher Gunn) Subject: Re: T R YOUNG To: SOCGRAD@UCSD.EDU >I would like to know if there is any way to prevent correspondence from >particular addresses from being posted in my mailbox! Lengthy rhetoric is not >a favorite of mine -- I would enjoy the opportunity to simply avoid it! I think (although I don't have hands-on experience) that the commercial, payware version of Eudora (2.x) implements 'filters,' so that you could route any 'T. R. Young' posts to a special mailbox whose only function is to be emptied. I believe you could do that, anyway. But I've got a better idea. Why don't we find the procedure to gateway SOCGRAD to a Usenet news.group? That way, people with Usenet (net.news) access could pick and choose what they read, and a wider audience would be addressed in the bargain. The equivalent psychology mailing list, 'psychgrad' is gatewayed to the Usenet newsgroup bit.listserv.psychgrad. Since SOCGRAD is not a Bitnet-based mailing list (I don't think so, anyway; maybe it has a Bitnet manifestation, too), this wouldn't be an appropriate spot. There's an extremely low-traffic alt.sci.sociology newsgroup already out there, but it would probably be bad etiquette to attempt to take it over. Maybe the best procedure would be to use proper channels to create an alt.sci.sociology.socgrad newsgroup whose sole purpose is a SOCGRAD mirror/gateway. It would be desirable, eventually, to have a sci.sociology in the regular Usenet hierarchy. (I don't know how well alt.sociology propagates; my guess is not particularly well.) However, I doubt if there's enough Usenet sociology traffic to get a positive vote for a sci.sociology creation. (It takes 100 supporters or more.) Having a moderate-traffic alt.sci.sociology.socgrad would be a start in the right direction. End campaign speech. Apologize if this idea has been discussed in the past and rejected. (I've only been following SOCGRAD since May.) Re: T. R. Young. I checked the Eudora mailbox where I save sociology-related traffic and note that I've kept six (6) of T. R. Young's posts here at work, and several more at home, for ideas/references they contain. That suggests to me that they're fairly useful. Whether they're wholly appropriate is another matter. One of the main activities on the psychgrad list/newsgroup (which I check every now and then on behalf of my wife, who refuses to become an Internet addict herself) is chasing away rogue faculty members who don't respect the list's mandate to be student-only. I saved a copy of the 'welcome' notice sent on subscription, and note that SOCGRAD is supposed to be 'open to all Sociology students in Masters or Ph.D. programs.' I don't know the extent to which this message is to be construed as an official charter. I would feel uncomfortable about attempts to be rigid about this matter. That sort of policing on 'psychgrad' strikes me as unfriendly and authoritarian, with a reverse-status twist ('Nobody here but us peons, dammit...'). But that's a high-traffic mailing list and perhaps some policing is necessary. I'm not sure it is on SOCGRAD. Kit Gunn, Univ. of Kansas Christopher Gunn Molecular Graphics and Modeling Laboratory 1k1mgm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu University of Kansas Phone: 913-864-4428 or -4495 Malott Hall Lawrence, KS 66045