Tue, 18 Oct 1994 15:13:31 -0700 for Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 17:48:58 EDT From: Steve Harvey Subject: "depth" of knowledge, continued To: SOCGRAD@UCSD.EDU Since, in my last post, I didn't use the example that is most illustrative of what I mean, I thought I would do so now. There is one interpretation of Frankfurt School theory which maintains that bourgeois science is *merely* an ideological legitimation of exploitation. Indeed, an ideological legitimation of exploitation *is* embedded in it, but it is folly to say that it is *merely* so. It is, rather, a very sophisticated package which includes tools and models and insights which far exceed anything that could be devised by one brilliant theorist attempting to create a humanistic science. The paradox is, the more theorists attempt to break with that package, the more of its sophistication they loose; the unwillingness to challenge it at all, conversely, relegates us to the "iron cage" of functional rationality, and the resultant relinquishment of substantive rationality (see Mannheim for a discussion of the mutual exclusivity of the two). I'm not making a moral call that one is "good" and one is "bad": I'm merely identifying the trade-off between the two. Examples abound. So, in my original post, I pointed out that this trade-off exists, and that when young ideas become dogma, they carry both the liability of stifling fresh thought *and* the liability of being less well developed. In a broader sense, they remain an asset, since dialogue between the two camps is likely to ensue somewhere, somehow. But that benefit is in spite of, rather than because of, the adamance of the individual adherents. I prefer, and encourage, a more intentional embrace and facilitation of that process by always placing fresh ideas into an immediate dialogue with established ones. This may sound like what we always do, but not really. We tend, more often, to embrace whatever is "in", and to pooh pooh whatever has been locally discredited. At least, I've seen an amazing amount of that in my young career. -steve