Tue, 18 Oct 1994 10:11:12 -0700 for From: blovitts@nsf.gov Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 13:10:12 EST To: socgrad@UCSD.EDU Subject: "Popular Sociology(?)" Socgraders -- With all the previous discussion of going "public" with sociology, the occasion of archconservative Charles Murray's new book, _The Bell Curve_ seems like a good topic for discussion on Socgrad -- not just the "popular" nature of the book, but its controversial content. I realize that few, if any, Socgradders have had a chance to read it (myself included), but reviews of it have appeared in the New York Times Magazine and it is the cover story of this week's Newsweek. It has also been mentioned on a few of the Sunday morning political news shows. So, Socgradders, how about a good sociological discussion of the book/discussion of the book's sociology/social science -- and even biology? For those who are unfamiliar with the book, Murray essentially argues that we have arrived at a point in society in which the social barriers that inhibited bright people from advancing and advanced dim-wits have fallen and now bright people (i.e., middle and upper classes) are breeding with bright people and dumb people (lower classes) are breeding with dumb people thereby creating two different genetic classes based on intelligence and that there is little that can be done for the "dumb," which leads him to the conclusion (one among many) that we should get rid of things like remedial education because it won't help. -- This is just a brief sample of the "wisdom" contained in the book. Discuss, argue, critique, snipe away .... Barbara