Thu, 13 Oct 1994 13:36:27 -0700 for Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:27:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Gibbons Subject: Re: Graduate Student Defined To: Wanda Kosinski Wanda, The title of this list is socgrad meaning this is a list primarily for grad students in sociology. It is my understanding that in the past participants who were faculty or undergrad have been asked to leave. I am not trying to be exclusionary, I am just thinking that if this is a list for grad students, it should be that. The whole purpose of letting Young participate is to get some input that would be otherwise absent. But, at the same time, we want to keep the list to grad students, I assume. If this is not a list primarily for grad students, please explain the title to me. As far as nonparticipation goes, I find that participation almost always invites a richer academic experience. I also find that the nonparticipants are primarily women in class, and suspect therefore, that under the guise of shyness, there are probably more women nonparticipating on socgrad as well. The question of nonparticipants is therefore inescapably gender-bound. Prove to me that it's not. Also, recognizing this gender disparity, I hereby invite women to speak up. I can't help but address the whole subject of nonparticipation with cynicism, because of this pervasive disparity between genders (and also any others not encouraged in our society to speak up). Therefore, I am inclined to wonder about your point regarding nonparticipation, Wanda. Correct me if I have misrepresented you. Thanks mike