Return-Path: sendmail 8.6.4/UCSD-2.2-sun Sun, 5 Dec 1993 00:51:53 -0800 for socgrad-list Sun, 5 Dec 1993 00:51:52 -0800 for To: socgrad@UCSD.EDU Subject: Re: Hiring <199312050656.WAA03286@ucsd.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 00:53:19 -0800 From: Michael Lichter I guess if you really like a school, and you would want to teach there one day, don't go study there. I think you can go away and return someday in triumph, but to go right from being a student to being faculty at the same school is unlikely. Besides the family analogy, another reason I've heard is that the status transition, from student to colleague, is difficult on both parties. One problem with that explanation is that the graduate student-faculty relationship is often described as one of apprenticeship (e.g. in my research job, I am described by the university as "academic apprentice personnel"). As far as I know, apprentices elsewhere in the world (e.g. in carpentry) grow up to work beside their former masters. Other reaons include the fact that a graduate student from any given department is likely to duplicate specializations already present in the faculty; that hiring from inside looks like nepotism and may be legally or at least publicly challenged from the outside; and that having to choose among the department's graduate students means having to choose among the "progeny" of the department's faculty, and little else could be expected to inspire as much rancor, back-stabbing, conniving, etc., except maybe the struggle over prime office space. Michael