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From: Jon <JEPSTEIN@KENTVM.BitNet>
Subject:      WHat Linda said Jon said
To: socgrad@ucsd.BitNet
Of course I'm baiting you, Linda. It's a guy thing.
The  problem with the sexism in rock is this:
What is rock music actually doing vis a vis culture? Is
it a reflection of existing standards, the purveyor of new standards,
or in a postmdern free-float? The way you answer this in turn
answers the sexism charges.
Rock is obviously sexist as is most "popular' music.
Always has been. It's also a white thing.  SO what
we end up with is a bunch of white males singing in a
form co-opted from african americans, about making the babe
in the back seat of a chevy. There are so many songs that are about this
that it is almost an ideal type.  It seems obvious that rock is about
something else, beyond this.
Later, Jon "actually read Derrida Once" Epstein
 "The point is not to write the sociology of the car, the point is to drive.
  In this way you learn more about society than all academia could
  ever tell you." Baudrillard. America