Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:50:59 -0500 To: PSN-Seminars@csf.colorado.edu From: Louis Proyect Subject: Re: Charles Ostenle and the Manifesto In-Reply-To: <56351.mkarim@moses.culver.edu> >I am also curious to hear >Louis Proyects' view on this issue. Louis defended the >base-superstructure metaphor in the CM150-l list a few weeks >ago. > >Manjur Karim Did I? I am surprised that such a sophisticated formulation would spring from my typing fingers. I feel like the Shakespearean clown who felt a burst of pride when he was informed that he was speaking in "prose." He thought he only knew English. I find all this discussion rather fascinating, I must say, and I am rather leery of Martha's remonstrations about world systems theory being "out of place." After all, Andre's paper was one of the core texts recommended for discussion in the seminar. I am in the middle of an intensive study of Incan society based on Murra, Stern, Patterson et al. in preparation for an article on Mariategui, as part of a series I have been writing on Marxism and the American Indian. I have a strong affinity with the viewpoint expressed in "The Communist Manifesto in Light of Current Anthropology" by Eugene E. Ruyle. On the other hand, I have spent five years promoting the use of high technology in Nicaragua and Southern Africa in the 1980s. I feel repelled by Marx and Engel's concept of "rural idiocy" but by the same token I believe that socialism can only be created on the basis of the most advanced technology. The reason for this is simple. The world's economy has become much more interwoven than it was in the days of the CM and it is impossible to turn back the clock. Urgent problems of ecology, energy reserves, farming and fishing, etc. can not be resolved on a local basis, no matter how seductive the call is to live a simpler life. Capitalism has opened a pandora's box and the only way to close it is with the tools and weapons it has put at our disposal. Louis Proyect