Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 12:57:13 -0700 Sender: pen-l@ecst.csuchico.edu From: FAC_BROSSER@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Subject: postmodernism & idealism 6 points, 36 lines: I really shouldn't get into this one, but, hey everybody else has. 1) Anybody who reads "Nietsche Contra Wagner" will know the proper relation between the former, Wagnerian opera and Hitler. 2) Jesuits did not and do not interpret or give a d--- about scripture. They obey the Pope and follow his party line. It is fundamentalist Protestants, among Christians, who worry about scripture. 3) I have not read Derrida's latest, but it is pretty obvious to me that the method of, as Steve Cullenberg put it, analyzing contradictions in hierarchical structures and then blowing them apart certainly has Hegelian, if not Marxist, roots. I have always been struck by the continuity in French political philosophy/sociology/anthropology/psychology from (at least) Marcel Mauss forward through Levi-Strauss to the post-structuralist/ pomos. And yes, it is all very very idealistic. This may all go back to Descartes (before 'de horse':-)) ,in fact. 4) Although Marx rejected idealism (I would contest that he was the first to "put ideology in its place," try Aristotle), there certainly have been idealist Marxist movements, especially in the late nineteenth century. One can "rule them out," as insufficiently Marxist, but then that is indeed the "totalitarianism" that so many object to. 5) In general I like the position put forward by Peter Dorman on all this (Peter, do you forgive me for giving you such a hard time over AS-AD?). Pomo carried to extremes becomes nihilism, but pomo has served a useful purpose in teaching us how to deconstruct. 6) I further note that pomo nihilism begins to look a lot like neo-existentialism ("Everything is meaningless, I shall die alone. Should I kill May myself? be I'll create my own meaning!") that is now fashionable with "generation bof" in France (their "Generation X") signaled by the publication of Camus' new (old) novel. Derrida would deride Sartre, but they are blood brothers (or ideal brothers, despite Sartre's "existence before essence" reversed before the US Congress by Vaclav Havel). Whew! Barkley Rosser James Madison University