Received: from mail3.tor.accglobal.net (mail3.tor.accglobal.net [204.92.55.108]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.4/CNS-4.1p-nh) with ESMTP id GAA24905 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 06:20:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from ppp-197.m2-6.tor.ican.net ([142.154.21.197] helo=donchism.ican.net) by mail3.tor.accglobal.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zhZRS-0005ez-03 for ppn@csf.colorado.edu; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:20:42 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19981122132053.00660588@ican.net> X-Sender: donchism@ican.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:20:53 -0500 To: ppn@csf.colorado.edu From: fran^don Subject: Re: Culling At 07:51 PM 11/21/98 -0800, ttoal@jps.net wrote: >Angela quotes Ed Glaze as saying: "But we refuse to >recognize that humans are just another animal and the >same rules [thinning the herd when it exceeds carrying >capacity] should apply." "Thinning", could be achieved through "attrition". "Attrition", occurs when death rates exceed birth plus immigration rates over a period of time. If political will could cause central government to modified the constitution toward recognition of our finite world it would need to shift focus from individual human rights today, to rights of humans in the future - seventh generation thoughts -, and it might shifted certain powers to community so that each community could: +establish it's own ecological footprint and understand the meaning; {Wackerneigl http://www.ecouncil.ac.cr/rio/focus/report/english/footprint/} +control immigration to the community; +License land use; +License and limit local corporations and projects based on long term ecological imprint - energy throughput and garbage output; +License child birth, as with any long term community issue; Economic reform would also be necessary to establish incentives leading toward a negative growth economy. Also it might shift tax from income to resources use, with more community control. If grass roots NGO's could come together for big picture issue, they might establish a common front for political change. Would you vote for a political movement with the above as part of its agenda? Don Chisholm ////////\\\\\\\\ Don Chisholm 416 484 6225 fax 484 0841 email donchism@ican.net The Gaia Preservation Coalition (GPC) http://www.envirolink.org/orgs/gaia-pc personal page: http://home.ican.net/~donchism/dchome.html "There is an almost gravitational pull toward putting out of mind unpleasant facts. And our collective ability to face painful facts is no greater than our personal one. We tune out, we turn away, we avoid. Finally we forget, and forget we have forgotten. A lacuna hides the harsh truth." - psychologist Daniel Goleman \\\\\\\\\/////////