Received: from smtp1.jps.net (smtp1.jps.net [209.63.224.236]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.4/CNS-4.1p-nh) with ESMTP id TAA21110 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:10:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from jps.net (208-25-50-97.stk.jps.net [208.25.50.97]) by smtp1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27846 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:10:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <364E37B9.1DBA2D14@jps.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:08:57 -0800 From: Ted Toal MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ppn Subject: Re: Irrational? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rc&am (Angela) posted several messages to me personally that I replied to. She has now posted two of those to PPN, and suggested I may want to post my replies to her to the list. She also suggests that I may want to post our other personal messages to PPN. Since she has taken the initiative on this, I'll assume this is something the list members would find appropriate, and I'll do it. You'll see several posts originating from me that are either rc&am's original message, or my reply to it, hopefully all in order. Ted Toal Here's the first, from rc&am to me, responding to my PPN post: > I think there is no arguing that the big picture is ultimately far beyond our > capability of understanding at this point. Which actually is all the more > reason to be concerned. It MIGHT be that earth can hold several trillion > people just fine, and with a few adjustments to attitudes here and there the > wildlife will do well too under that condition. But, since we don't KNOW for > certain and do not have the ability to analyze the earth as a system and > understand it thoroughly, and here i was thinking that you did know and were going to enlighten us all.... > and since everything we DO KNOW points overwhelmingly > in the direction that we have a major problem, the prudent position is to do > whatever we can to humanely stop and reverse population growth. how about culling? angela