Received: from netlink.com.au (merlin.netlink.com.au [203.16.172.196]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ITS-5.0/csf) with ESMTP id GAA18462 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:17:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from netlink.com.au (h150.mel.netlink.com.au [203.62.225.150]) by netlink.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08600 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:21:40 +1100 Message-ID: <36498E0B.6F7B4268@netlink.com.au> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:15:55 +1100 From: rc&am Reply-To: rcollins@netlink.com.au MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PROGRESSIVE POPULATION NETWORK Subject: [Fwd: A more rational reply from Mr. Glaze.] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------12CBC9ABC1BD8B20D225ADBF" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------12CBC9ABC1BD8B20D225ADBF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------12CBC9ABC1BD8B20D225ADBF Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="nsmail8B.TMP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="nsmail8B.TMP" Message-ID: <3646D635.C9BD6F60@netlink.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:47:01 +1100 From: rc&am Reply-To: rcollins@netlink.com.au MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eglaze@vsta.com Subject: Re: A more rational reply from Mr. Glaze. References: <01be0ba1$9c936c60$516039cc@eglaze.vsta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Glaze III wrote: > The "head in the sand approach" that I mentioned dealt with the book > that someone else mentioned on the list. You also snipped that from > your reply. The description of that book does imply that women in poorer > nations suffer because of overpopulation. no, they suffer from malnutrition, superexploitation, racism, and many other things besides. overpopulation is not a problem. the problem for many of these women is that they are used as guniea pigs for pharmaceutical companies trialing contraceptive and sterilisation procedures, which in amny cases, is the only well-funded health care that is made availble through health funding, or at the very least, is enforced as a condition of the terms of IMF loans and western aid. > To me, overpopulation will cause everyone in poorer nations to suffer > and much of that is due to the culture of that nation and cannot be blamed > completely on the rich countries who might, or might not be exploiting the > country economically. here mr glaze shows us his real concern re: the poor. he argues that they are responsible for their own impoverishment (this is somehow the result of their 'culture') and in turn, that their present conditions are created because of overpopulation. despite all this waving about of rationality and the facts, such thinking is actually mired in idiocy and ignorance. > I would hope you are in the > minority on this population listserv because there is a vast amount of > evidence to prove that most every country in the world is overpopulated > and increasingly suffering because of it. no one is suffering because of overpopulation. there is no scarcity. mathus was wrong when he was writing, and you are wong now. as you were wrong because of the prejudicial ease with which you infered that 'rc&am' was a he. angela --------------12CBC9ABC1BD8B20D225ADBF--