Received: from netlink.com.au (merlin.netlink.com.au [203.16.172.196]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ITS-5.0/csf) with ESMTP id WAA03332 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:27:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from netlink.com.au (h139.mel.netlink.com.au [203.62.225.139]) by netlink.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08495 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:31:49 +1100 Message-ID: <36491FF8.559E2B9A@netlink.com.au> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:26:16 +1100 From: rc&am Reply-To: rcollins@netlink.com.au MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PROGRESSIVE POPULATION NETWORK Subject: [Fwd: Fw: Quinacrine on 60 Minutes & Bill McKibben chat] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2098193E25C8331FA0BE450B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2098193E25C8331FA0BE450B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------2098193E25C8331FA0BE450B Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="nsmailDA.TMP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="nsmailDA.TMP" X-POP3-Rcpt: rcollins@merlin Return-Path: Received: from rivendell.vsta.com (rivendell.vsta.com [204.57.96.15]) by netlink.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23945 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:48:50 +1100 Received: from eglaze.vsta.com (eglazeADSL.vsta.com [204.57.96.81]) by rivendell.vsta.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA19061 for >; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:46:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed Glaze III" To: " Subject: Fw: Quinacrine on 60 Minutes & Bill McKibben chat Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:49:46 -0600 Message-ID: <01be0cd2$81298540$516039cc@eglaze.vsta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I doubt you agree with me on this sterilization topic but below is a copy of a message on Quinacrine that I posted recently. Yes, I am in favor of sterilization in some cases and if Quinacrine is cheaper and safer than surgery for females then that is an option that should be available. Especially if sterilization is needed on a large scale in a country that cannot afford, or does not have, the doctors necessary. The choice to use Quinacrine should be available and I am ver much in favor of continued trial use with a rapid expansion. Forced sterilization procedures may have been abused, or the policies have been faulty, but there is a need for cheap, long-lasting, and effective birth control in many countries. Plus it does not seem that there are widespread or serious problems with Quinacrine when used properly. I think we will be disagreeing on many population issues because I view the problem in much different terms -- namely that we have excess people now and a population reduction is needed. I know that discussions such policies are not going to be welcomed even on a population listserv, much less in social and political circles. However, that does not mean that population reduction is not what we really need. ________ Ed Glaze -----Original Message----- From: Ed Glaze III To: Audubon Population Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 7:07 PM Subject: Quinacrine on 60 Minutes & Bill McKibben chat >Just watched 60 Minutes and saw the Quniacrine story. > >Overall it was pretty good and the coverage was balanced. >Mumford and Kessel came out looking reasonable while the >opponents seemed much less so with their implication of >racist motives. Overpopulation was mentioned and Morley Safer >seemed concerned and understanding. The motivation to oppose >Quinacrine use for sterilizations came across as political, not >medical or environmental. > >Other interesting points: >FDA study of Quinacrine would take 8 years and cost 8 million dollars. >India and several other countries recently quit using Quinacrine. >There are US doctors who want to provide it to their patients. >No major side effects were documented or even implied by doctors. >Fears and possibilities of side effects were mentioned by opposition. >China getting ready to do major trial on Quinacrine. > >At the end of the story they said the FDA ruled just last week that >Quinacrine is unsafe and told Kessel and Mumford to stop all >imports and exports of Quinacrine and to destroy all their stock. > >________ Ed Glaze > >"If they don't understand the severity of the problem, >they won't understand the severity of the solution. >Overpopulation must be dealt with." > >---------------------- > >Quinacrine (online preview available) >Two Americans who distribute a controversial drug to Third World >women say they are offering a cheap and safe method of sterilization. >But critics say there's no proof the drug is safe for that purpose and >accuse these men of using poor people as pigs. >Co-editor Morley Safer reports. > >(no mention of transcripts) > >Quinacrine Non-surgical Method of Voluntary Female Sterilization: Newsletter > > >Row over sterilisation divides India > > >Phantom Sterilizations -- The Quinacrine Story > > >Food and Drug Administration > >(no mention of the Quinacrine ruling) > >Stephen Mumford >Freethinkers United! Conference 1997 > > >International Federation for Family Health (IFFH) >Elton Kessel, 6100 N E Mineral Springs Road, Carlton OR 97111 > >THE LIFE AND DEATH OF NSSM 200 >How the Destruction of Political Will Doomed a U.S. Population Policy >by Stephen D. Mumford > > >______________________ > >Chat With Author Bill McKibben > Is One Child Enough? > > We often see overpopulation as a problem for someone else -- >Tanzanians, perhaps, or Bangladeshis. But writer Bill McKibben >says we can't sustain the lifestyle we take for granted unless we >curb our own population growth. The author of the new book >Maybe One: A Personal and Environmental Argument for >Single-Child Families, McKibben thinks couples should at least >consider having no more than one child. > McKibben, who wrote the The End of Nature, The Age of >Missing Information and Hope, Human and Wild, is a frequent >contributor to The New York Times, Atlantic Monthly and other >magazines. Bill McKibben joined ABCNEWS.com for a chat >on Friday, May 29. (link to above URL for the actual chat) > --------------2098193E25C8331FA0BE450B--