Received: from pm02sm.pmm.mci.net (pm02sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.151]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.8.4/8.8.4/CNS-4.1p-nh) with ESMTP id LAA27264 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:07:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acciinc. (usr41-dialup27.mix2.Atlanta.mci.net) by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) with SMTP id <0EU100K3XE8GYT@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for ppn@csf.colorado.edu; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:07:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 11:51:53 -0500 From: Nan Hildreth Subject: Class and Mortality X-Sender: 10ebt9o4ablg@mail65.MCIONE.com To: ppn@csf.colorado.edu Message-id: <3.0.1.32.19980604115153.006a5488@mail65.MCIONE.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am having a long discussion with some population people on an email list who would focus on US population, specifically US immigration, and deny the impact of growing US consumption on global consumption growth. And the relationship between global instability and population growth. Has anyone got pointers for me? Does economic insecurity affect people's choices about having children? Are human rights equivalent to environmental concerns? Nan Hildreth Nan.Hildreth@MciOne.com Houston Population/Sustainability Contact In 1992, "When ...Ted Turner funded a competition to find a fictional work demonstrating a plan for sustainability, ten thousand manuscripts poured in. And yet, reports Turner, "we did not have one plausible treatise on how we could get to a sustainable, peaceful future."' (Chellis Glendinning's, "My Name is Chellis and I'm in recovery from Western Civilization.", 1994, p 206) Also in 1992, Donella advised us to come up with a positive vision of the sustainability transformation (Beyond the Limits).